speed ? 90hp on a 190

scialli · December 08, 2010, 06:28:55 AM

not sure but if it says DFI, that means it is the most current revision optimax and is oil injected rather than premix. the older two strokes needed their oil premised into the gasoline. I merc. engineer told me that the DFI was the best because it actually sprays oil on key engine components in various amounts depending on heat and load sensor data.... as well as have it mixed with the fuel prior to combustion.

fish bone · December 08, 2010, 06:05:14 PM

would you go with a new older year opt thin a new year elpto i found a new 2005 opt for 3,600 off $:-\$

scialli · December 08, 2010, 07:04:28 PM

I would choose the optimax every time. fuel injection and the brains that come with it is dope. not to mention the DFI

fish bone · December 08, 2010, 07:16:13 PM

i have the 50 elpto and it stays cold dont want that agin i hope i can get a good trade in price on mine

SoFLnative · December 09, 2010, 08:09:06 AM

Quote from: fish bone on December 08, 2010, 07:16:13 PM
i have the 50 elpto and it stays cold dont want that agin i hope i can get a good trade in price on mine

i got 4g's for mine when i repowered. It was only 6 months old.

BTW DFI= direct fuel injection. There is a night and day difference between an ELPTO and an optimax. The optimax is a turn key motor. No choking, no giving throttle. Get in, turn the key. It primes, throttles and starts like a car. That alone is worth it IMO. Especially on a cold morning.

fish bone · December 09, 2010, 10:19:24 AM

was the price alot after trade in and out the door $:-\$

fish bone · December 12, 2010, 08:23:09 PM

can you send pics of how far down the back of the boat sits in the water with the 90 optimax with jack plate $:-\$

SoFLnative · December 13, 2010, 08:53:48 AM

SoFLnative · December 13, 2010, 08:59:16 AM

Quote from: fish bone on December 09, 2010, 10:19:24 AM
was the price alot after trade in and out the door $:-\$

It was around 5k out the door......but that included: motor, jackplate, prop, water pressure gauge, and install of all.

He gave me prop, jackplate, gauge at 10% over cost.

fish bone · December 13, 2010, 09:35:40 AM

do you have pics of the boat out in the water with 90 and with 50 $:-\$

SoFLnative · December 13, 2010, 10:08:53 AM

nope.

fish bone · December 13, 2010, 06:20:49 PM

about how much lower does the 90 sit then the 50 $:-\$

SoFLnative · December 14, 2010, 07:57:15 AM

All other things being equal (gas/load) maybe 2 inches?

The opti is 375 pounds. The 50 elpto is about 200 if i remember correctly. That is a 175 pound difference. Not sure what you weigh but it would be easy to measure just by getting in the boat and standing on the transom to simulate the difference.

Lee Smith · December 14, 2010, 08:30:22 AM

Love the Hard Numbers! Great Job!!! Good to have someone on here that will give out ALL the changes and willing to let us all learn from them!

fish bone · December 14, 2010, 02:13:37 PM

Quote from: SoFLnative on December 14, 2010, 07:57:15 AM
All other things being equal (gas/load) maybe 2 inches?

The opti is 375 pounds. The 50 elpto is about 200 if i remember correctly. That is a 175 pound difference. Not sure what you weigh but it would be easy to measure just by getting in the boat and standing on the transom to simulate the difference.

your boat is sweet and i want the optimax but and jack plate is over 30 pounds will the speed be close with out the jack plate its all about wight $:-\$

scialli · December 14, 2010, 09:48:43 PM

weight is important but it is all about the jack plate. it transforms the entire personality of the boat. don't kid yourself

SoFLnative · December 15, 2010, 10:57:41 AM

Quote from: fish bone on December 14, 2010, 02:13:37 PM
your boat is sweet and i want the optimax but and jack plate is over 30 pounds will the speed be close with out the jack plate its all about wight $:-\$

The speed wont be close. you would be lucky to break 45 without a plate. Trust me.....if you are going to go through the cost of repowering you must do a jack plate. no question.

fish bone · December 15, 2010, 05:01:34 PM

is it hard to install your self becouse with my trade in i can get the 90 opt for 4grand if i install

OutdoorFrontiers · December 15, 2010, 05:44:54 PM

Nope, jackplates are pretty easy to install. Then, simply hang the motor on the fackplate and run the controls. The only thing is, you'll have to make sure that your shifter and throttle cables are long enough withthe addition of a jackplate.

And trust me, weight isn't the only thing that makes your boat go. Having an adjustable jackplate will allow you to dial in the correct motor height on your transom, and THAT will have an effect on how the boat runs!

Steve

Bassoholic · December 15, 2010, 06:19:08 PM

I own a 06' PT 190 with a 90 OPTI on back, I run a 13X23p Aluminum prop on back. Me/partner/gear and full gas tank can get 47-49 pending on water roughness and trim. I can consistantly hit 47mph which I love. I believe the 190 is rated for 135hp, I would get the biggest outboard you can afford. The boat will handle relatively big water/waves but you need an outboard to keep that long/light bow on top of them though. I heard that mercury was introducing a 125hp motor as well maybe an option if its available? But I think that 115 Pro XS would make her fly though!

scialli · December 15, 2010, 09:00:39 PM

the dealer should only charge you an hour to hang the plate and motor.... mine did. I highly recommend the CMC. it is super easy to adjust on the water and is a quality piece.

SoFLnative · December 16, 2010, 08:30:36 AM

Quote from: Bassoholic on December 15, 2010, 06:19:08 PM
I own a 06' PT 190 with a 90 OPTI on back, I run a 13X23p Aluminum prop on back. Me/partner/gear and full gas tank can get 47-49 pending on water roughness and trim. I can consistantly hit 47mph which I love. I believe the 190 is rated for 135hp, I would get the biggest outboard you can afford. The boat will handle relatively big water/waves but you need an outboard to keep that long/light bow on top of them though. I heard that mercury was introducing a 125hp motor as well maybe an option if its available? But I think that 115 Pro XS would make her fly though!

Are those speedometer readings?

fish bone · December 16, 2010, 10:20:13 AM

Quote from: Bassoholic on December 15, 2010, 06:19:08 PM
I own a 06' PT 190 with a 90 OPTI on back, I run a 13X23p Aluminum prop on back. Me/partner/gear and full gas tank can get 47-49 pending on water roughness and trim. I can consistantly hit 47mph which I love. I believe the 190 is rated for 135hp, I would get the biggest outboard you can afford. The boat will handle relatively big water/waves but you need an outboard to keep that long/light bow on top of them though. I heard that mercury was introducing a 125hp motor as well maybe an option if its available? But I think that 115 Pro XS would make her fly though!

mercury does have a 125 now and a 90 is the max for mine i have the 175

fish bone · December 16, 2010, 10:26:57 AM

does anyone thank the 90 elpto with the jack plate be as nice it is about 70 pounds lighter and wy did they stop the elpto

scialli · December 16, 2010, 07:50:00 PM

no, get the Opti Fish Bone

it will make that thing fly and be a much better motor for you. you dont want to regret your decision 3 years from now.