2005 Annual UBCS Tournament

bassadict69 · October 04, 2004, 07:32:58 PM

Just my 1/2 cent...

I agree with Bo on the fact that anyone should be able to be a part of the UBCS, including the team portion.

Until earlier this year, I spent several years without fishing in a club, ONLY because of the fact that I hadn't yet found a bunch of guys that I enjoyed fishing with. Other clubs I had fished with were either cut-throat or very poorly organized.

Had the UBCS come up before I started fishing with TCTC, I would hate to know that I couldn't join in on the UBCS simply because I wasn't in a club or associated with a group or because I could not get my other members to join UB to fish the shootout.

I understand this is a "tournament", But I believe the main reason for putting this together in the first place was for fun & comraderie, meeting & making new friends from other areas, as well as a little friendly competition. If we started excluding people simply because they are not part of a "group", I am afraid we are taking this whole thing WAY too serious. After all, nobody here is making a living from this once a year tournament. If there was big money at stake, I could possibly see tighter restrictions on individuals fishing and being adopted into a participating club.

Rattle & Bassadict69, · October 04, 2004, 08:12:40 PM

Both post were very well written, with good ideas and some good hind sight, the annual tournment like you said was for all to together and fish and have a good fellowship among our members! I known we were late getting into the ball game, but maybe that was our fate, maybe that was why we never could find a club to fish with until we found this site and all you fine guys & gal's and now we have found a home with great friends and a mighty fine club to boot! It's great with you are welcomed with open arms and like you have known each other for years, and that's what the annual is all about, meeting & spending time with ole friends and making new friends!

It's not about the 1st place money, there is 11 more months that we can fish for money, but this one is for the fellowship of our fine Web site & members!

Ricky

Rickoos · October 04, 2004, 08:18:20 PM

WOW, my computer went crazy after the thunderstorms, I was writing this to Bassadict69 & rattle and everyone.......

Quote from: Rattle & Bassadict69, on October 04, 2004, 08:12:40 PM

Both post were very well written, with good ideas and some good hind sight, the annual tournment like you said was for all to together and fish and have a good fellowship among our members! I known we were late getting into the ball game, but maybe that was our fate, maybe that was why we never could find a club to fish with until we found this site and all you fine guys & gal's and now we have found a home with great friends and a mighty fine club to boot! It's great with you are welcomed with open arms and like you have known each other for years, and that's what the annual is all about, meeting & spending time with ole friends and making new friends!
It's not about the 1st place money, there is 11 more months that we can fish for money, but this one is for the fellowship of our fine Web site & members!

Ricky

MotherNature · October 04, 2004, 08:30:54 PM

I couldn't agree with you more

friendly competition, fun and camaraderie are what this is all about

Laurie

Wildcat26 · October 05, 2004, 08:33:47 AM

I did not say do not let all fish. I said this is called(UBCLUBS) and advertised as a CLUB tournament. If that is what we want then lets make it a CLUB tournament. You know like truth in advertising. If its not a CLUB tournament then call it something else. I know the orginal idea was a CLUB tournament, something different from other tournaments. HAS THAT CHANGED? We no longer want to have a club tournament? I also suggested a way to let people not currently in a club fish. Go to the home page and read, it says club club club over and over in every article. If you are going to leave the tournament wild open and not charge a token club fee we will be getting away from our original goal..

MotherNature · October 05, 2004, 09:04:17 AM

Wildcat,

You are right it does say club club club on the home page and in every article I can manage to squeeze it into

and the goal of the tournament is to "eventually" have clubs from around the country compete against eachother for the right to call themselves Champions, like all good things we need a growing period as well as time to build trust and integrity. The tournament is also structured around "this" website and the avalability of message boards for bass fishing clubs and the hope that we will one day host many many club boards with active members that will join us in the UBCS. Since it is a part of two goals, getting as many clubs as possible together, and getting our current members together to meet, and all together have a little competitive friendly fishing I would hate to even single out someone that doesn't belong to a club.

I have been thinking about your suggestion to have them join a club to be able to fish but lets face it there may not be a club that is suitable for them to join. I for one wouldn't waste my money to join a club that was based 3, 4, or even 6 hours from home if I wasn't going to be able to fish with them on a regular basis.

I would like to see everyone join the site with club in tow and every club have 10 active members but even you know that is not a realistic request since for a long time Rattle was the only LJBC member that was active and still the majority of the club is not signed on. Membership here is the FIRST and most important issue and requierment of this tournament. How do I tell the members that are active here like yourself that they cant fish or they have to pay to join a club that they wont fish with over the long haul to be able to fish?

Jared LeBlue · October 05, 2004, 09:59:29 AM

Ok with all that said

here is what we have decided to do. Orphans, I love that term, will be allowed to sign up for the tournament. Remember one thing if the tournament is held at a very far distance from your clubs home than you may be an orphan someday. The Ultimate Bass Staff will determine which club or clubs the orphans will fish with. I do understand where Wildcat is coming from and to have the orphans fish in an open field and not as a part of the club would change the dynamics of the tournament. Everyone brought up some good points and we appreciate everyones opinion.

Basically it will be the same as it was in the first tournament. Placing them with a club will be the responsibilty of the Ultimate Bass Team.

Mike Noble · October 05, 2004, 10:10:39 AM

This could make a difference...are these "red-headed" orphans?

I think everyone has awesome comments and the input can only make this tournament better.

MotherNature · October 05, 2004, 10:15:22 AM

Thank You Rattle, I love your ability to make a quick firm decision

Rickoos · October 05, 2004, 04:49:05 PM

I have already got some help with door prizes, not sure what they may be yet, but every one is a plus for the cause!!!!!!!!!

Ricky

MotherNature · October 05, 2004, 05:29:17 PM

That is a definite plus Ricky. I am surprised that you started so soon.... I hope that everyone is excited about all of this as you are...

MotherNature · October 05, 2004, 08:23:18 PM

Taking all things into consideration we have decided to hold the UBCS on the fourth (4th) weekend of June.

Summer time to accommodate those of us that have children
The coolest of summer weather for those of us that don't care for the breathtaking heat
Not on any holidays
Not in Sept/Oct since that is when a lot of major tournaments are held
Hoping that with such advance notice everyone will be able to make plans to join us at the 2nd Annual UBCS...

Mother Nature

bassadict69 · October 05, 2004, 08:37:53 PM

YEEHAW...I can't wait...

Laurie, if there is anything I can do to help, please let me know!!

Mike Noble · October 05, 2004, 08:50:49 PM

Oh, don't worry bassadict....there will be MORE than enough to do and we will be calling on you.

MotherNature · October 05, 2004, 09:05:46 PM

Mike you took the words right out of my mouth

Hey guys remember I am not going to be here after about December as far as tournament work goes I will be trying to pack, move, sell the house, talk to Mike while he is away at school, and preserve my sanity.... So a lot of the last minute stuff will be up to the club...

Don't worry I will do everything I possibly can until that time comes...

Rattles Trap · October 05, 2004, 09:17:15 PM

If you need help packing I will send Jared over to help.

MotherNature · October 05, 2004, 09:26:16 PM

Thanks! I may have everyone over for dinner one weekend and get them alllllll to help us out

Jared LeBlue · October 05, 2004, 09:26:30 PM

Ok, enough of that, I kicked her off.

I'm glad the date is set, now where is it going to be? Hey yall actually have time to make that decision, we are actually ahead of schedule.

Good Job Laurie.

MotherNature · October 05, 2004, 09:30:44 PM

Shoot I forget my notes....

We do still have a hard decision ahead of us though. I did a lot of calling around today and it is going to be tough to pick the lake I think

As a tournament director I always hated this part! But I am sure that the guys will all help out with ideas and it will be outstanding....

Code Select


Notes:
Host Determination Policy - complete (ahead of schedlue ;) )
Tournament Date Decision - by October 15th- -complete (ahead of schedlue ;) )
Club to Submit Lake Choice and alternate for approval - No later than October 22
All final by October 29th

bocraw · October 06, 2004, 09:27:16 AM

As I've said before, no matter what date you pick somebody is going to have a conflict. That is just the way it goes when you are trying to coordinate this many people. Unfortunately, in this case that somebody is me. I have to ask: Is that date firm? Does the third weekend in June not work? Does 4th of July weekend not work?

If the date is firm, is this going to be the date it is held every year or just this year?

MotherNature · October 06, 2004, 09:44:06 AM

Bo we looked at all the dates that were available and they either conflict with a holiday, fourth of july is not a good time to get your people out on the lake it is crawling with people and we would just be asking for an accident, and fathers day has proved non productive in the past for us, I really feel like I am between a rock and a hard place here

Lets say it this way, right now I have no other choice as to the dates of the tournament. The lakes with accomodations here are limited and so I went with what we had to so that there would be accomodations... not to mention one of the places that we were considering basically told me that we were welcome there but they would schedule whatever big tournament that came into town on top of us and that would not be a good thing

needless to say I will not be taking any of our tournaments there in the future no matter how big they get or if they invite us, it was a huge let down comming form someone that I have been working with for several years now...

bocraw · October 06, 2004, 10:06:32 AM

Personally, I have fished many times on Fathers Day and 4th of July. I had some complaints about missing Fathers Day, but my attitude is that it is MY DAY. And what I want to do on MY DAY is fish. As for the 4th, the boat traffic is bad but having a holiday actually helps those of us who have to travel. That way some people won't have to take a vacation day to drive home.

Anyway, I've organized fishing and golf tournaments before and I know that allot of times it feels like you are put in a "can't win" position. So I understand where you are are coming from if the date can't change. 2004 was Mike Noble's turn to miss out and I guess 2005 will be mine.

BIG PAPA · October 06, 2004, 08:45:24 PM

Has Lake Fork been considered?
How about Lake Millwood? It is a really beautiful lake just North Of Texan, actually has schooling Bass. and I am pretty sure it has accommodations.

I posted notes on
Fishing boards .com
Texas Fishing forum
ProBass.com

papa

MotherNature · October 06, 2004, 10:14:58 PM

Papa... would you happen to know how to get ahold of those lakes... I will try to look it up on the WWW in the morning.

Mike Noble · October 07, 2004, 07:15:17 AM

I have heard of Millwood but don't know anything about it. As far as Fork, I really don't think we want to deal with their "slot".