hooks

Started by avid, February 29, 2008, 09:29:24 AM

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avid

I have been thinking alot about the different styles of worm hooks.
For example I have concluded that for me, an offset worm hook sticks and holds better than the same quality wide gap.
but even in offset worm hooks their are differences.  An aberdeen round bend or an oshaunassy?  why would a knowledable person choose one over the other?
Then of course straight shank hooks seem to work great also.
What's a basser to do?  ~gf
So many lures, so little time.

kickurbass

Quote from: avid on February 29, 2008, 09:29:24 AM
I have been thinking alot about the different styles of worm hooks.
For example I have concluded that for me, an offset worm hook sticks and holds better than the same quality wide gap.
but even in offset worm hooks their are differences.  An aberdeen round bend or an oshaunassy?  why would a knowledable person choose one over the other?
Then of course straight shank hooks seem to work great also.
What's a basser to do?  ~gf

Buddy, I'm lost when it comes to these questions and that is exactly why I started a thread on hook descriptions on the very top of the techniques page. Check it out please.... :help:
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avid

Well kickur.
I would LOVE to see a primer on hooks as you described.
The info I"m looking for today is way more limited.
Specifically, I'm wondering if the folks prefer an aberdeen (round bend) worm hook, or the o'shaughnessey bend.
Does anyone think it matters? and if so why?
So many lures, so little time.

Benthook120

I don't know if this will help any, but I've used these different hooks and styles and I've always gone back to the extra wide gap worm hooks for all my soft plastics. I had a real problem with the fish swallowing the hook or gill-hooking with the Aberdien's. Straight shank hooks was pretty much the same problem. I really like the Owner in 3/0 and 4/0 size. 
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avid

ditto on the owner hooks.  Never fail.
I had been using the EWG but get better hook up's with the regular  offset worm.
I use the riggin hook for toads and other fat bodied baits.
I have a friend who uses the gammy round bend.  Swears by em he do.
Yet Gammy also makes an offset worm with an o'shaunessey bend.  Can't help but wonder why?
So many lures, so little time.

avid

decided to take the bull by the horns, so to speak.
I found this after a google search.

# O'SHAUGHNESSY
This hook is named for the specific design of the hook. It's a standard hook, forged with a very strong bend. This hook is relatively thick, very strong, and not likely to bend out of shape. Generally designed for saltwater, it is good for general bottom fishing use. Sizes range from #3 to as large as 19/0.
# ABERDEEN
These hooks, while primarily used in smaller sizes in freshwater, are also used by saltwater anglers. They are generally made from shaped wire. Unlike the O'Shaughnessy, it can and does bend. It can be bent back into shape several times before it becomes too weak. However, once a fish is hook and the barb has completely penetrated, this hook holds quite well. These hooks are modified with bends in their shanks for use in jig molds.

so it appears that the DESIGN of the o'shaugnhessy is inherently stronger than the aberdeen or round bend.   
So many lures, so little time.

catfish_dave

I STILL SAY OWNER HOOKS ARE THE BEST WHEN IT COMES TO GETTING FISH OUT OF DEEP COVER

bassamatic

Quote from: catfish_dave on March 08, 2008, 09:54:47 AM
I STILL SAY OWNER HOOKS ARE THE BEST WHEN IT COMES TO GETTING FISH OUT OF DEEP COVER

out of any cover.
never pick a fight with an oldman,if he is to old to fight he will just shoot u

pawleysi

the differences would be very slight in terms of shape.  it is probably a little easier for a texas rigged plastic to slip down the bend on an oshaunassey because it wouldnt have to stretch longer to go around the bend like on a roundbend.  much more important is the diameter of the wire and the type of offset(turn) if any.  you can set a finer wire with lighter line which is becoming more of a factor as people use finesse styles.  if you yank a 20+ lb line with a stiff rod i doubt the hook shape has any effect.  drop to 6 with a slow rod and the system needs more balance.  my theory is that the hook should match the size of the bait and if anything breaks in your setup it should be the line, not the rod or a straightened hook.  i am liking the peg hooks(flutter and unweighted) because the plastic doesnt bunch up on the hook as bad with things like toads and creatures.