live well problems

buzzinbass · September 15, 2007, 06:18:26 PM

I have a 2008 tr- 196 when I turn on my switch to pump water into the live well they won't work put the motor in reverse and it starts to fill I've had it back to the dealer and getting ready to take it again for this problem he cut some hose and we tested them and they worked and I've tested it several times before today but today during my tournament it would not work had to reverse to get the air lock out of it would puttin a new pump in work

Mike Cork · September 15, 2007, 06:39:54 PM

It is possible that the pump is going bad already or bad out of the box. They are not very powerful to begin with. I have seen many times that a pump when turned on wouldn't spin the impeller but once you tapped the impeller with your finger it would take off.

They aren't very expensive am surprised that your dealer doesn't try just to make sure. I doubt it's a design flaw in the aerator system or all of them would be doing it.

Hardcore · September 16, 2007, 05:29:33 AM

Buzzinbass, that is one of the problems why my new boat is at the dealer know. It has did it since day one. They have told me that all they need to do is reposition the pump. I hope that fixes the problem......

buzzinbass · September 18, 2007, 08:54:34 PM

I took it to the shop today I hope they don't have to move the pump just hope replacing the pump will work

buzzinbass · September 22, 2007, 07:34:57 PM

Took it back and got it back and it still not working properly all he did was cut more hose off now it's straight up and down and still air locks put it in reverse and starts working fine I'm getting

over this I'm calling another dealer to see what he would do.

Jdaddy · September 22, 2007, 11:32:29 PM

Just change the pump, i had problems with my port side pump out(TR-21), sometime it worked other time didn't, you waste more on fuel and time driving to the dealer then a new pump and they are pretty easy to install.

buzzinbass · September 23, 2007, 09:34:15 AM

Quote from: Jdaddy on September 22, 2007, 11:32:29 PM
Just change the pump, i had problems with my port side pump out(TR-21), sometime it worked other time didn't, you waste more on fuel and time driving to the dealer then a new pump and they are pretty easy to install.

That's what I thought they was going to do but when I went to pick it up he told me he just cut some more hose off he said he could see changing out the pump when it works after you get the air out of it. and after I tried it yesterday and it didn't work I'm calling him tomorrow and taking it to him he is going to replace the pump on it. I'm getting

over this

Basser43 · October 04, 2007, 01:39:57 PM

I have the exact same boat with the exact same problem. Did the new pump fix it?
My dealer wanted to do the same thing(shorten the hose). I beat him to it and did it my self to save time and trips. It helped but did not fix the problem. I can put boat in rev. and the pump will start pumping. Before I had to put the boat in rev. and gas it to make it start. From what I can see the pump is mounted at an angle and allows an air pocket to form. If the new pump does not fix it I am going to make him remount the pump bracket.
Any Ideas?

buzzinbass · October 05, 2007, 05:00:13 PM

Well tried it today and it didn't work again

I called them this morning and broke the bad news to them and don't know what to do maybe try replacing the hose it in case it got a small hole in it still have to kick it in reverse to get it to pump

Jdaddy · October 06, 2007, 11:32:10 AM

I think i got pump out problems too, funny problem, whenever i pump out either one or both sides it shots the water in a jet pressure up and sideways, like 5-6' high in the air.
I don't know why it does that, there is no way to fill up a weigh in bag,

Basser43 · October 08, 2007, 11:54:28 AM

Sorry guys not trying to butt into the conversation. I found this site because of this problem with mine.
See if this help though.

Mine is back at the dealer this week. Trying two things.
1 Stronger pump
2 Changing the pump mounting. The pump is mounted on an angle upward. This creates an air pocket at the pump. If the stronger pump (1000 GPM) does not work I am making them do the remounting deal.

Jdaddy · October 08, 2007, 03:24:27 PM

I think mine are 1000's and work great, as i said before, they pumps the water out in jet pressure.

Basser43 · October 08, 2007, 04:38:19 PM

Sorry Jdaddy I had not read your post when I posted last. i was still on Buzzinbass problem with the fresh water in pump that I have the same problem with.

But your problem sounds like an obstruction in the hose for the pump out. Or a crimped hose. Like when you bend a hose pipe and the water comes out under pressure. I have seen this before. The water shooting sideways makes me think the crimp is at the exit nozzle. Might be something to look for.

Jdaddy · October 08, 2007, 05:01:07 PM

i know but it does that both sides, strange but as long as it pumps out and quick its fine with me, at least for now.
I got a few TX's coming so i don't have time to look at it.

Hardcore · October 08, 2007, 05:22:23 PM

Jdaddy, on my TR-196 I just sold. If you park next to someone at the ramp and started the pump out on your live wells, it would wash down whatever was setting next to you...

Jdaddy · October 08, 2007, 11:41:06 PM

I know, not to mention i can not fill up my weigh in bag, i will check on it when in a few weeks.
When thinking about it i don't see what can be done differently, even if i will be able to direct the hose down it will still be fast jet out.
hmmm.

AB · October 09, 2007, 12:37:43 PM

It does that becuase they use high volume pumps so that you can drain the livewells quickly. Many people complained about how long it took to pump out them big livewells, so they put on higher volume pumps to pump them out faster, but the drawback is that they did not increase the size of the hose, and consequently, you have the firehose effect when you try to pump them dry.

As for the livewell filling issue, Triton is aware of it and when I hear of a fix, I will let you guys know.

buzzinbass · October 09, 2007, 06:04:07 PM

Here is what triton told me The location of the pump housing needs to be turned to prevent air from locking between the impeller and the exhaust nipple. I have spoke to the Dealer this morning and directed them on what to look for and correct. I hope this will resolve the issue at hand. If you need further assistance, please let me know.
I took the boat to them today and Hopefully have it back before the weekend

Bass Mafia · October 09, 2007, 06:13:21 PM

Not too sure, but sounds like you're losing your "prime" and the water's draining back out. Seems like if a one-way valve could be installed between the pump and the intake, it would keep the water at the impeller on the intake side. The pump reverses fine, right? Maybe because the water's draining back down all the time and sits at the impeller at the exhaust side of the pump. Just a thought. Another thought after I posted this: You still need to pump out your livewells, so a one-way valve might not be the answer. Sorry.

Basser43 · October 10, 2007, 04:11:50 PM

Quote from: buzzinbass on October 09, 2007, 06:04:07 PM
Here is what triton told me The location of the pump housing needs to be turned to prevent air from locking between the impeller and the exhaust nipple. I have spoke to the Dealer this morning and directed them on what to look for and correct. I hope this will resolve the issue at hand. If you need further assistance, please let me know.
I took the boat to them today and Hopefully have it back before the weekend

It sounds like the exhaust nipple needs to be turned downward. Is this correct to what Triton Said?

buzzinbass · October 10, 2007, 08:07:43 PM

I called the dealer today to see if they had the boat ready to be picked up and they said it would be tomorrow they were replacing everything on the livewell including the housing I guess they said that's what triton said to do

but I'll have it friday before the weekend I just hope it works then

buzzinbass · October 12, 2007, 03:53:11 PM

The 90 that the hose is connected to has to be straight up on top of the pump to work so that the air won't get into it. triton told him that they don't know what to do to it so he replaced everything and then played with it got it to work with the 90 on top of the pump hope that helps you all that has the same problem

Basser43 · October 18, 2007, 09:35:19 PM

Thanks I pick mine up Friday. I will make sure the 90 is up.

Thanks again for the help