Favorite 2 power spinning rod for 4" weightless wackys?

[strongx]

Hey guys. Ive read a bunch of old strings on this topic and see the 3 powers like the dx743s or 703s are great 5" senko rods. My 743s is a little much for the 4" weightless wackys I throw. I really like my 742 and it would likely be great for senkos. It is great for the neds I throw. Does anybody use 2 powers for this application and what do you use? Im thinking about the dc682sf for skipping under docks and around blowdowns, very little grass. Maybe get another 742sf? I guess Im looking for recommendations on a good skipper of 4" weightless senkos. The 742 might be a little long for that.

[BassingBen93]

I have the DC702 and DC703. The 702 I think would be great in either DC or DX.

[Mike Cork]

If rigging Wacky, that means open hook. Gary's general rule is open hook gets a 2 power, something that needs to push through plastic gets a three power.

[Gary Dobyns]

BassinBen93 nailed it here. THX!!!!!

[strongx]

Will the 702 or 682 be better for skipping? I thought the 682 might feel a little stouter because of the shorter length. Are the actions any different between the two rods?

[BassingBen93]

You shouldn't have any issue skipping the 702 but I am really not a fan of any rod shorter than 7ft. The 702 and 703 are both swiss army knives for spinning rods.

[strongx]

You shouldn't have any issue skipping the 702 but I am really not a fan of any rod shorter than 7ft. The 702 and 703 are both swiss army knives for spinning rods.

Thx Ben. Youre right, Id probably have more uses for the 7 footer as well. As I said earlier, I have both the dx743s and dc733s. I will need to decide between the champ series and the extreme for the 702. Good problem to try to solve I guess. There are plenty of good thngs written on here about the champion 702, but I suspect that dx702s is a light magic wand. Has the dx702s changed lately? I once read where it was like a 1.5 power. Is that still the case? That might be a little light for the senkos.

[chrisD46]

If rigging Wacky, that means open hook. Gary's general rule is open hook gets a 2 power, something that needs to push through plastic gets a three power.

*So true - Gary's easy way to remember how to decide between a 2 power and 3 power Dobyns rod . I have both a Dobyns Sierra  SA 702 and SA 703 and couldn't be happier for the budget I set .

[ohiobass]

I mostly use a Kaden 712sf for open hook wackys & Nekos in shallow water. Sometimes I'll go to a DC 733sf in deeper water for my Nekos.

[NWsmallie]

First comment as a new member. Good topic on the power for Dobyns SF models. Just fished the new Kaden 712sf a couple days ago for smallies and found the 2 power Kaden to be a strong 2 power. The tip (first 4 guides) transition quickly into a strong almost 3 power backbone. I would call this rod a 2+ power. Good for throwing heavier neds or finesse tubes and the 4" wacky. If neko, drop shot or lighter neds I'd go for the 702 Sierra as it seems to be more parabolic.

[strongx]

First comment as a new member. Good topic on the power for Dobyns SF models. Just fished the new Kaden 712sf a couple days ago for smallies and found the 2 power Kaden to be a strong 2 power. The tip (first 4 guides) transition quickly into a strong almost 3 power backbone. I would call this rod a 2+ power. Good for throwing heavier neds or finesse tubes and the 4" wacky. If neko, drop shot or lighter neds I'd go for the 702 Sierra as it seems to be more parabolic.

Thanks for the info. I tried the dx742s today and didnt like the feel casting the 4" wacky senkos. I love the 742s for the neds. It bombs them. But I struggled some tossing the senko. I was thinking a more parabolic rod might be more effective in tossing them. The 742s goes very quickly from a great tip to a strong 2 power IMO.
You mention the 712s and I have a one kaden (744) that I like but throw heavier weights of course. Weightless wackys are such a staple that I would like to have a great rod for it. It sounds like the 7' and 7'1" dobyns might work great. Id like to find something I like more than the 6'6" pflueger I am now using. Does anybody know if the sierra 702 or 692 are noodles?Would I get more casting distance with the sierras or the champions?

[ohiobass]

First comment as a new member. Good topic on the power for Dobyns SF models. Just fished the new Kaden 712sf a couple days ago for smallies and found the 2 power Kaden to be a strong 2 power. The tip (first 4 guides) transition quickly into a strong almost 3 power backbone. I would call this rod a 2+ power. Good for throwing heavier neds or finesse tubes and the 4" wacky. If neko, drop shot or lighter neds I'd go for the 702 Sierra as it seems to be more parabolic.

yep! The KD 712sf is more like a 2-1/2 power.

[ohiobass]

if talking only 2 power, by far, the best is a Kaden 712sf. it is more like a 2-1/2 power when compared to other 2 powers in all other Dobyns spinning rod models.

[Dink Dawg]

Kaden 702.385SF. Love it!!!

[skidemn]

First comment as a new member. Good topic on the power for Dobyns SF models. Just fished the new Kaden 712sf a couple days ago for smallies and found the 2 power Kaden to be a strong 2 power. The tip (first 4 guides) transition quickly into a strong almost 3 power backbone. I would call this rod a 2+ power. Good for throwing heavier neds or finesse tubes and the 4" wacky. If neko, drop shot or lighter neds I'd go for the 702 Sierra as it seems to be more parabolic.

Thanks for the info. I tried the dx742s today and didnt like the feel casting the 4" wacky senkos. I love the 742s for the neds. It bombs them. But I struggled some tossing the senko. I was thinking a more parabolic rod might be more effective in tossing them. The 742s goes very quickly from a great tip to a strong 2 power IMO.
You mention the 712s and I have a one kaden (744) that I like but throw heavier weights of course. Weightless wackys are such a staple that I would like to have a great rod for it. It sounds like the 7' and 7'1" dobyns might work great. Id like to find something I like more than the 6'6" pflueger I am now using. Does anybody know if the sierra 702 or 692 are noodles?Would I get more casting distance with the sierras or the champions?

I realize this thread is nearly a year old, but since someone else bumped it I'll give it my $.02. I have both the KD712SF and DX742SF and love them both, but for different things. I fish mainly Ned rigs and small moving baits like tiny underspins with the 712. The DX742 is my primary dropshot rod and it excels for that. I fish mainly 4.5"-6" Roboworms and Netbait Lollipops on it, in as deep as 45' and it is amazing with light bites. That said, I fish 4" and 5" Senkos as well as weightless swimbaits and flukes on a Sam Sobi Series SAM723. The Sobi rods are built on Kaden blanks but have different lengths and feel. The 723 is a perfect 3 power and that extra length gives it the perfect tip and body for those slightly heavier plastics. I would suggest the SAM723SF for your application Strongx.


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[strongx]

Thx slidemn. I am still looking for an ideal 4" senko rod.

First comment as a new member. Good topic on the power for Dobyns SF models. Just fished the new Kaden 712sf a couple days ago for smallies and found the 2 power Kaden to be a strong 2 power. The tip (first 4 guides) transition quickly into a strong almost 3 power backbone. I would call this rod a 2+ power. Good for throwing heavier neds or finesse tubes and the 4" wacky. If neko, drop shot or lighter neds I'd go for the 702 Sierra as it seems to be more parabolic.

Thanks for the info. I tried the dx742s today and didnt like the feel casting the 4" wacky senkos. I love the 742s for the neds. It bombs them. But I struggled some tossing the senko. I was thinking a more parabolic rod might be more effective in tossing them. The 742s goes very quickly from a great tip to a strong 2 power IMO.
You mention the 712s and I have a one kaden (744) that I like but throw heavier weights of course. Weightless wackys are such a staple that I would like to have a great rod for it. It sounds like the 7' and 7'1" dobyns might work great. Id like to find something I like more than the 6'6" pflueger I am now using. Does anybody know if the sierra 702 or 692 are noodles?Would I get more casting distance with the sierras or the champions?

I realize this thread is nearly a year old, but since someone else bumped it I'll give it my $.02. I have both the KD712SF and DX742SF and love them both, but for different things. I fish mainly Ned rigs and small moving baits like tiny underspins with the 712. The DX742 is my primary dropshot rod and it excels for that. I fish mainly 4.5"-6" Roboworms and Netbait Lollipops on it, in as deep as 45' and it is amazing with light bites. That said, I fish 4" and 5" Senkos as well as weightless swimbaits and flukes on a Sam Sobi Series SAM723. The Sobi rods are built on Kaden blanks but have different lengths and feel. The 723 is a perfect 3 power and that extra length gives it the perfect tip and body for those slightly heavier plastics. I would suggest the SAM723SF for your application Strongx.


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[ohiobass]

now that I got a new DX 742sf, it will become one of my favorite wacky worm rods for sure!

[chrisD46]

If rigging Wacky, that means open hook. Gary's general rule is open hook gets a 2 power, something that needs to push through plastic gets a three power.

*That's the rule of thumb I go by !

[chrisD46]

I have the DC702 and DC703. The 702 I think would be great in either DC or DX.

*Do you ever see the need for a Dobyns Spinning 704 rod - or do you jump up to a bait cast MH rod at that point ?

[apenland01]

I have the DC702 and DC703. The 702 I think would be great in either DC or DX.

*Do you ever see the need for a Dobyns Spinning 704 rod - or do you jump up to a bait cast MH rod at that point ?

My fluke rod is a 704, great action on the technique and plenty of power to hookset and get them to the boat...

[Smallie_Stalker]

Many years ago when I fished Falcon rods I developed a preference for throwing C-Rigs on spinning gear.

I would still consider a 4 or even 5 power spinning rod today for this. And maybe even a couple other techniques in certain situations.

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[chrisD46]

Dobyns Sierra 702 spinning rod : A little slower rod blank which pairs very well with #10 lb. braid + # 8 lb. FC leader ; also less expensive than the Champion series.