Garmin Livescope

[Pro Reel]

Okay, now what about battery life. I've heard from some that you might not want to run panoptix on the starting battery. I've got a 4 battery system, 3 dedicated to TM. Is panoptix going to drain the starting battery? I'm already running the biggest deep cycle AGM batteries you can get. Now I'm wondering if I should get a 5th battery just for electronics.

[Bassinkorea]

I have heard the same thing about power drain. The few times that I have used mine I was out for a full day with the Livescope running alongside 2 and sometimes 3 Lowrance HDS units, which are all wired into my LI cranking battery and I've not had any issues. Saying all that, I haven't used this in a tournament with livewell pumps running, so time will tell.

I always keep a jump box and jump cables in the boat.

[fishin couillon]

My experience with battery:  I only have 2 units and LS. Unit on console will either be powered down or put in sleep mode when fishing. Bow stays on as well as LS. I also have a large AGM 31 battery, its going on 4 yrs old and i have not had any issues. Last 4 trips were crappie fishing and that was 9 hrs. each trip using the 12" unit/LS on bow, only cranking the big motor to move to another spot and back to landing which is not enough to really charge battery.  No issues with power loss....

I think in situations where guys are complaining about their batteries going dead dont have correct size battery, its old, or has 10 units (sarcasm) turned on.  Just my thoughts on that.

[lockinload]

After getting my Livescope installed yesterday I realize there is no ON/OFF switch on the black box and it is hooked straight to the starting bat.  Anyone know if that thing is drawing power while in an idle situation?  Maybe the fish finder turns it on? 

[ring fry]

There is some draw.  As per instructions, an on/off switch is recommended. 

Retired grass grower

[lockinload]

There is some draw.  As per instructions, an on/off switch is recommended. 

Retired grass grower

Hmmm, I did not see that in the instructions and was told by a reliable source that Garmin does not recommend an on/off switch.  He said he had one installed and then took it out after Garmin said not to use the switch. He is a Garmin distributor.  Not saying your wrong but, I suppose a call to Garmin is in order.

[Wayne P.]

Installation instructions. Diagram on page 4, symbol above the battery-----https://www.manualslib.com/manual/1504716/Garmin-Panoptix-Livescope.html?page=4#manual

AND that power disconnect can be a boat's accessory switch, battery disconnect switch, or added switch on the black box's power cord.
Reading, comprehending, and following instructions seems to be a lost art.

[Bud Kennedy]

Woop there it is. 

[Bassinkorea]

All my units and the Garmin black box is wired into my cranking battery main power switch, which gets switched off at the end of the day.

[lockinload]

Installation instructions. Diagram on page 4, symbol above the battery-----https://www.manualslib.com/manual/1504716/Garmin-Panoptix-Livescope.html?page=4#manual

AND that power disconnect can be a boat's accessory switch, battery disconnect switch, or added switch on the black box's power cord.
Reading, comprehending, and following instructions seems to be a lost art.

Wow, you would think they might label that switch, for those of us with comprehension disorders, or actually included it in some kind of description in the instructions. I have a kill switch at the battery, not a problem, and my system is wired exactly as that schematic shows, question was, why there wasn't an On/Off switch on the black box.  Must not be that important.  BTW, I still don't understand the bottom right schematic, with the splice in the middle (#2).  This was the question I addressed Bassinkorea in a PM. That entire schematic is confusing or overkill at best.  Regardless, my system is installed and gets a shake down run today.

[Oldfart9999]

Reading, comprehending, and following instructions seems to be a lost art.

It's just not manly.
Rodney

[coldfront]

STeve (wayne please chime in if you can)

you just made decision to go with panoptix/live scope.  I'm looking at the technology, but th inking for how I want to use it, for edges, cover identification, that the HB 360 might be the better tool for me.

did you work through that decision process?

[Bassinkorea]

I never even considered the HB 360. I just didn't want that big transducer added to my TM, and I have no experience with HB at all.

Other than that I have seen the Garmin system first hand on several other boats and just liled the entire system.

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[Wayne P.]

STeve (wayne please chime in if you can)

you just made decision to go with panoptix/live scope.  I'm looking at the technology, but th inking for how I want to use it, for edges, cover identification, that the HB 360 might be the better tool for me.

did you work through that decision process?

Panoptix/Livescope/LiveSight/Active Target were never part of my decision, suspended species like crappie and spotted bass in deep water isn't my thing. Those accessories are better for that. I bass fish in less than 30' and seeing what stuff actually looks like and how fish relate to it is the benefit of 360/MEGA 360. The 360's are rotating Side Imaging transducers, they don't have the almost instant display update like the Garmin/Lowrance has, but I'll take shaper images over blurry. If Humminbird's MEGA LIVE will produce images like SI/DI then I may consider it.



Having both technologies is becoming popular.

[Mike Cork]

You can't argue with what you doing there. Awesome images. How shallow can you build images like that?

[coldfront]

thanks wayne.  as I'm thinking about my circumstances (cruising grass lines on river/channel ledges that may go down to 20-25 feet) having ability to line up a cast, get proper angle, etc  sure looked like the 'spatial' part of the 360 would best fit 'that'.  while still allowing ID of 'targets' in that cover as well.

regardless of direction, it's a lot of $$ to spend and then find out 'oh, I shoulda...'

[Bud Kennedy]

Coldfront, I seem to remember that you were considering a new boat.  Have you given up on that idea in favor of some new electronics instead?

[coldfront]

Coldfront, I seem to remember that you were considering a new boat.  Have you given up on that idea in favor of some new electronics instead?

bud, I want it all.   

actually getting closer all the time to pulling the trigger on a new boat.  have a few models on the short list.  if you like, I could start another thread on the options/process?

[Capt. BassinLou]

bud, I want it all.   

actually getting closer all the time to pulling the trigger on a new boat.  have a few models on the short list.  if you like, I could start another thread on the options/process?

I'm curious to see what boats are on your short list.

[Wayne P.]

You can't argue with what you doing there. Awesome images. How shallow can you build images like that?

The 360 pod has to be above the bottom is all that is needed. It is a rotating Side Imaging transducer so its coverage is the same as Humminbird's Side Imaging===from the water's surface to past vertical under the transducer on both sides.
I took this screen shot last Spring when the bass were spawning. I had the trolling motor on the bottom acting like a shallow water anchor, the sonar transducer was buried in the bottom mud so there is no depth reading. I was looking for bass among the logs and stumps, saw some and caught some:

[geneinnc]

The fishing buddy that turned me on to Garmin just added the Humminbird 360. You talk about an impressive bow display!

One thing I'm not clear on....The 360 just picks up structure and not fish? I'm still impressed we could pick up the remnants of a dam that was demolished when they flooded in lake Hickory

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[Wayne P.]

The fishing buddy that turned me on to Garmin just added the Humminbird 360. You talk about an impressive bow display!

One thing I'm not clear on....The 360 just picks up structure and not fish? I'm still impressed we could pick up the remnants of a dam that was demolished when they flooded in lake Hickory

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It's Side Imaging, it shows fish just the same whether it is used for 360 or Side Imaging.

This is using the MEGA 360 for SI, there's bass "over there"----



This is a lot of crappie relating to rocks-----



This shows the bass in the water column and their shadows on the bottom----



Bass after a school of shad-----

[coldfront]

easy on the walleye icons there Wayne!   

always amazed:  I see fins!

[geneinnc]

It's Side Imaging, it shows fish just the same whether it is used for 360 or Side Imaging.

This is using the MEGA 360 for SI, there's bass "over there"----



This is a lot of crappie relating to rocks-----



This shows the bass in the water column and their shadows on the bottom----



Bass after a school of shad-----

Is this photos from your Humminbird or demo? Pretty awesome

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[Wayne P.]

Is this photos from your Humminbird or demo? Pretty awesome

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That is on three different lakes finding fish, "it's so easy a cave man can do it"