Casting with both hands?

TNDiver · January 23, 2020, 11:46:45 AM

You might be seeking perfection that is going to be impossible. I felt the same way about birds nests until I realized it happens even to the pros. Everything takes practice to improve, but there will still be imperfections. Especially when the wind or breeze enter into the equation. I am guessing you are close to your target vs broad side of the barn, so just keep practicing and you will get better. The weight of the lure, the size of the line and the weight ratings for the rod all play a role too. I couldn't understand how to cast a light lure with distance until I realized I am using too heavy of a line and the lure was under the weight for my rod. Had to change my equipment up and it improved. There are many factors and you may be like me and expect perfection that just isn't going to happen.

TWBryan · January 23, 2020, 08:15:22 PM

Thanks Dink Dawg, I'm going to try it as soon as I can.

TNDiver, Yeah I'm probably being unrealistic about it,still I want to get as close as I can. I'm going to change to a sitting position as that will be more stable than standing for me. Then I'll try to use two hands, this should allow greater control which should yield better accuracy.

I would've gotten out today,but too busy..

TWBryan · January 24, 2020, 01:38:24 PM

Made it out today,sat in front yard on bucket and attempted to cast as I have observed. As near as I can tell I am just plain clumsy. I put the fuego reel on the fuego rod and worked with that. I could get it to work a few times,but not consistently so I was not able to identify what I was doing correctly. It was a bit discouraging ,but I will try again tomorrow weather permitting.

merc1997 · January 24, 2020, 03:28:35 PM

Quote from: TWBryan on January 24, 2020, 01:38:24 PM
Made it out today,sat in front yard on bucket and attempted to cast as I have observed. As near as I can tell I am just plain clumsy. I put the fuego reel on the fuego rod and worked with that. I could get it to work a few times,but not consistently so I was not able to identify what I was doing correctly. It was a bit discouraging ,but I will try again tomorrow weather permitting.

i learned to use a bait caster with an old knuckle buster, which i doubt if you even know what that is. anyway, i picked out a jillion birds' nests. practice, practice, practice. i also spent lots of hours pitching, and before i got my wrist messed up, i could drop my bait on a dime and never hardly disturb the water on entry. did i mention to practice.

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TWBryan · January 24, 2020, 03:40:28 PM

Merc1997, knuckle busters are what my father used. The handle rotates when the spool does and would beat your hand to death casting out.. Practice is the way to go,I think I am just way out of practice and my skills are lamentable. Just have that sad feeling one gets when you've eliminated all possibilities and conclude it's you that sucks and not the equipment.

I will endeavor to persevere..

TNDiver · January 26, 2020, 09:47:50 AM

The knuckle buster reminded me that I find it easier to cast, especially for flipping and pitching or short casts, with the reel tilted almost 90 degrees with the handle pointing up. Imagine shooting a gun in the horizontal position like you see in the movies. I find I get less birds nests as I believe there is less friction on the line and it runs smoother vs the friction it will have when the rod is pointing up in the air.

just another thought

TWBryan · January 26, 2020, 09:41:57 PM

I do that as well,for better wrist movement. So far have not managed to learn the two hand cast. I suspect my dexterity is lacking. Hoping weather will warm up and allow me outside a bit more often.

1ReelFanatik · February 08, 2020, 11:43:02 AM

Rod length, lure weight or distance have nothing to do with how I cast. I use 2 hands almost exclusively. Some rods don't lend themself well to one-handed casting. Got a nice 13 Fishing rod for an extremely low price from a (very nice) guy that only casts one-handed. All it took was one cast (one-handed) for me to see why he got rid of the rod. Dang near threw the rod away on that cast.

Lipripper · February 08, 2020, 11:47:27 AM

Quote from: 1ReelFanatik on February 08, 2020, 11:43:02 AM
Rod length, lure weight or distance have nothing to do with how I cast. I use 2 hands almost exclusively. Some rods don't lend themself well to one-handed casting. Got a nice 13 Fishing rod for an extremely low price from a (very nice) guy that only casts one-handed. All it took was one cast (one-handed) for me to see why he got rid of the rod. Dang near threw the rod away on that cast.

I think I always use two hands also. I will have to make a note of this when we get soft water and dryer banks and warmer temps.

coldfront · February 08, 2020, 12:28:09 PM

Quote from: caddyjoe77 on January 21, 2020, 08:48:32 AM
when i am throwing heavier stuff, it's more like a 3/4 -- so not completely vertically or horizontally.

and I guess, now that i think about it--i guess I do use two hands more often than i thought.

yes to all of that. as to whether sidearm, overhead or 3/4 delivery (angle) some of that depends on what's around, who's around in the boat.

it's like Mahommes tossing the FB: arm/rod angle is determined a lot by how y ou need to fit the cast 'in'.

those longer rods? I can and often do cast one-handed. but over a long day, that can really wear on a guy.

ergonomically, if not egotistically, it's smarter.

TheLastRodBender · February 14, 2020, 09:37:27 AM

Quote from: fishballer06 on January 21, 2020, 09:08:08 AM
Outside of pitching/flipping, I always use two hands to cast a rod. Doesn't matter if it's 6'6" or 8'.

+1

Absolutely, always have one hand on the reel, and one on the butt, unless i'm flipping.

rcjoutdoors · February 18, 2020, 02:34:27 PM

I usually cast with 2 hands from habit and keeping my wrist healthy (had a fracture way back). Some very light and short combos will get me to cast one handed from time to time.

Sandman7925 · February 18, 2020, 05:58:28 PM

I always use 2 hands. Helps with hand and wrist fatigue which didn't happen when I was younger.

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coldfront · February 19, 2020, 06:11:17 AM

Quote from: TWBryan on January 23, 2020, 08:15:22 PM
TNDiver, Yeah I'm probably being unrealistic about it,still I want to get as close as I can. I'm going to change to a sitting position as that will be more stable than standing for me. Then I'll try to use two hands, this should allow greater control which should yield better accuracy.

bad lower back (spondy/stenosis) mean I can't stand still for more than a few minutes at a time. much less over a trolling motor for 10-12 hours. the angle from a 'leaning post' is almost as bad.

so I've adapted and fishing from the Bill Dance position.

even so, I use 7 - 8 foot rods. have ability to side-arm, 3/4, or overhead cast all my lures/rods. flip/pitch too.

might not be the way MOST guys do it, but it works. and so far, no one has asked me to turn in my man-card.

over-runs happen to us all. the whole point is to work to get better to get longer casts. that means pushing it and that's when 'stuff happens'.

my personal biggest challenge? skipping. that's a work in progress and an exercise in how good can I get at picking out backlashes.

hang in there. we'll both get there. eventually.

Sandman7925 · February 19, 2020, 10:04:12 AM

Quote from: TWBryan on January 21, 2020, 02:22:48 PM
Thanks guys, the technique itself is a jedi mind trick? I guess I need to keep searching,somewhere there has to be a clip of someone demonstrating how it's done. The long rods are just very awkward for me to cast one handed..

I think you're overthinking it. If my weak hand is on the but of the rod then I'm just applying more bracing, balance and weight support. And I have 2 hands/wrist stopping the motion of the rod at the end of the cast rather than one. It all equates to better accuracy but mainly less fatigue at the end of the day.
I keep my grip on the end of the rod with my weak hand much firmer than my strong hand on the reel.

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Smallie_Stalker · February 19, 2020, 01:12:33 PM

Quote from: coldfront on February 19, 2020, 06:11:17 AM
bad lower back (spondy/stenosis) mean I can't stand still for more than a few minutes at a time. much less over a trolling motor for 10-12 hours. the angle from a 'leaning post' is almost as bad.

so I've adapted and fishing from the Bill Dance position.

even so, I use 7 - 8 foot rods. have ability to side-arm, 3/4, or overhead cast all my lures/rods. flip/pitch too.

might not be the way MOST guys do it, but it works. and so far, no one has asked me to turn in my man-card.

over-runs happen to us all. the whole point is to work to get better to get longer casts. that means pushing it and that's when 'stuff happens'.

my personal biggest challenge? skipping. that's a work in progress and an exercise in how good can I get at picking out backlashes.

hang in there. we'll both get there. eventually.

I'm in pretty much the same situation with my my back and now my messed up knee. Standing in general is becoming harder and harder for me.

How do you manage to pitch/flip from a sitting position? I've never been able to do it.

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