Rod suggestions

Jacobguy · July 11, 2019, 08:10:25 PM

Yes of course, I plan on sticking around. Also can I frog and jig with this line? My brother says you need 50lb line but hes also not the sharpest knife in the drawer. Thanks.

Capt. BassinLou · July 11, 2019, 08:15:30 PM

Quote from: Jacobguy on July 11, 2019, 08:10:25 PM
Yes of course, I plan on sticking around. Also can I frog and jig with this line? My brother says you need 50lb line but hes also not the sharpest knife in the drawer. Thanks.

Lol!! Your brother is spot on this actually...for frogging 50lb braid is ideal.
Mono stretches too much to set the hooks with a frog. Braid has 0 shock absorption, allowing for a much stronger and solid hookset.

Capt. BassinLou · July 11, 2019, 08:18:07 PM

Learn to use and cast the bait caster effectively first before jumping into advance techniques like fishing the frog.

Jacobguy · July 11, 2019, 08:33:37 PM

Thanks, for once hes right. When do you think I'll be able to effectively fish frogs and jigs? I figure not for a while but I'll get out to the lake and practice as much as I can.

Capt. BassinLou · July 11, 2019, 08:35:55 PM

Quote from: Jacobguy on July 11, 2019, 08:33:37 PM
Thanks, for once hes right. When do you think I'll be able to effectively fish frogs and jigs? I figure not for a while but I'll get out to the lake and practice as much as I can.

That's a question only you can answer. Every one learns at different paces. If you fish alot, you will learn the b/c faster than if you don't fish often. Time on the water will be your best teacher in this scenario.

Jacobguy · July 11, 2019, 08:42:32 PM

So I guess I'll just play it by experience, thanks for all your help and everyone else too!!!! I'm gonna be around still bugging you guys with questions so dont worry I'll keep you posted.

Thanks

Jacobguy · July 11, 2019, 08:44:21 PM

Ah, and wait one more thing (lol I know) of those two Daiwa Fuego CT's on amazon I posted which one?

Capt. BassinLou · July 11, 2019, 08:45:07 PM

Quote from: Jacobguy on July 11, 2019, 08:42:32 PM
So I guess I'll just play it by experience, thanks for all your help and everyone else too!!!! I'm gonna be around still bugging you guys with questions so dont worry I'll keep you posted.

Thanks

That's why we are here for, bug away... lol
Best of luck to you, enjoy the process.

Jacobguy · July 11, 2019, 09:05:54 PM

Any advice referring to the two Daiwa Fuego CT's on amazon I meantioned before? Thanks.

zippyduck · July 11, 2019, 09:45:27 PM

The bottom one would be my choice.

Here is why. It is a faster speed and you can always slow down your retrieve but speeding up is a lot harder to do.

Eventually we will explain why to use a slower reel and when to use a faster. Many little details we are used to knowing will be coming shortly.

RocBass · July 12, 2019, 08:50:18 AM

Sorry, I'm late to this discussion. I have fished for all species that you mentioned. I would recommend a spinning set up - reel would be a Diawa Fuego LT or for a little less the Exceler LT. Size would be 2500
Spool with 20# or 15# braid and tie on a 6 foot leader of florocarbon line. You can use 12# floro leader - buy a 150 yard spool and it will last you a long time. You can also buy a spool of 15# Berkley big game mono to use for a leader, this is a great value and you can get a 500 yard spool for very little $s. Depending on conditions - clarity of water, fishing weeds vs. open water, and weight of lure you are using; you can down size your leader and use a lighter # test , say even down to six #test leader line. Use an Alberto knot to tie on the leader.
I have a few Dobyns spinning rods and believe you can use a Fury 703SF if you want to go with a Dobyns. There are also some nice Diawa medium spinning rods that will do the job for you get a 7' Tatula or 7' Fuego rod rated from 1/8 to 3/4 oz and you will be all set.
Good luck

Jacobguy · July 12, 2019, 10:26:27 AM

Thanks Rocbass but I think I'mgoing to go with the baitcaster setup as I can do more with it. Also the more i read the SLX is a big competitor with ththe Daiwa Fuego CT what would you guys choose?

Thanks

RocBass · July 12, 2019, 10:59:52 AM

Good luck with your choice. I will not argue with it. I will disagree with any logic that says that a bait caster is more versaitile than a spinning set up. You will eventually end up with a spinning set up at some point, as you will experience more as you go forward

MrSmitty · July 12, 2019, 11:07:55 AM

Oh my god, the "my brother is not the sharpest knife in the drawer" cracked me up. That is just what I needed on a Friday.

I agree that your next rod and reel should be a spinning setup. The 734 is a great choice as well. I would also offer that a good co-polymer line like Yozuri would work well as an all purpose line.

Jacobguy · July 12, 2019, 11:22:37 AM

Lol, and is there any actualy fishing differences on why i should get a spinning setup not a baitcaster? And sorry to offend rocbass I'm still learning and was under the impression bait casters could do more in certain areas. Thanks.

MrSmitty · July 12, 2019, 12:00:58 PM

No, there are uses for both. I think you made a good decision, but for your 2nd setup get a spinning rod and reel. You can do a lot of things with a spinning setup and easier to cast (generally). He is spot on regarding the reel - Daiwa Feugo LT.

There are some guys who only use spinning setups, then again some finesse fish with bait casters.

RocBass · July 12, 2019, 12:25:33 PM

Not offended at all. I'm not here to argue with anyone, so that's why I wont fight with someone's choice. However, I've been fishing for a long time, using a lot of different techniques for a lot of different species of fish. So, just offering my opinion based on experience, a spinning setup has much to offer for what you are trying to do, which is alot with just one outfit.
A spinning outfit will allow you to cast lighter lures much easier, farther, than a casting outfit. So if you're fishing rivers with lighter spoons or spinners, or even throwing egg sacs for steelhead; a spinning outfit is better suited to your needs. Keep in mind that the proper rod is important - too heavy will limit your distance - so that's why I recommend the medium for what you are trying to do. A medium power rod will still allow you to land a big fish as long as you have the drag on your reel set light enough, your line wont break and you'll have fun fighting the fish. When I was a kid in Alaska, I caught plenty of big salmon on a 7' medium spinning rod. I now catch many bass as well from my kayak using a medium spinning rod.
I think a spinning reel will be more trouble free for you and easier to learn, virtually no learning curve. There is no combination that is perfect for everything, and you can get equipment that will match any specialized technique there is; however, for what you're trying to start out to do, the spinning option would be more suited to getting it done.
Note that the father of Senko fishing in the U.S., Gary Yamamoto, uses spinning gear to fish senkos with now, so that should tell you something about how versatile spinning outfits can be.
Again, you're just getting started, so if you start out with a spinning setup you will probably eventually get a casting setup as you go along.
Best of luck. Have fun researching and learning.

Jacobguy · July 12, 2019, 01:31:30 PM

So what if I'm reading correctly with a casting outfit you sacrafice the ability to cast lighter rigs and you sacrafice casting distance, but with a spinning setup your able to do those things with ease but jigs and frogs are still possible but tricky. I'm still going to go with the casting outfit for my first real pole but come soon enough I'll be getting a spinning setup. It really is beginning to seem like the Dobyns is the way to go so you reccomend a Daiwa Fuego LT and a 703sf? But I have a question with a colt 734c it says heavy but acts like a mmh rod how much casting distance would i be sacraficing compared to that spinning setup with a 703sf?

Thanks

Capt. BassinLou · July 12, 2019, 01:52:55 PM

Quote from: Jacobguy on July 12, 2019, 01:31:30 PM
So what if I'm reading correctly with a casting outfit you sacrafice the ability to cast lighter rigs and you sacrafice casting distance, but with a spinning setup your able to do those things with ease but jigs and frogs are still possible but tricky. I'm still going to go with the casting outfit for my first real pole but come soon enough I'll be getting a spinning setup. It really is beginning to seem like the Dobyns is the way to go so you reccomend a Daiwa Fuego LT and a 703sf? But I have a question with a colt 734c it says heavy but acts like a mmh rod how much casting distance would i be sacraficing compared to that spinning setup with a 703sf?

Thanks

Jacob, you are asking excellent questions, until you have your new reel and rod in hand, and become familiarized and efficient with a b/c (baitcaster) will you be able to understand all these great explanations and suggestions that have been provide to you. Trust me when I say, once you receive your new reel you will be starting a new thread on here on how to properly setup a b/c reel. There's a significant learning curve when compared to a spinning reel.

Jacobguy · July 12, 2019, 02:05:16 PM

Thanks Bassinlou, I'm still probably 2-3 weeks out from pulling the trigger on anything. I very much plan on starting a thread on how to setup, attach ect. And that doesnt even include rigs for bait. But if I were allowed to say spend some extra money and upgrade either the rod or reel and instead of get a colt 734c I could get a fury 734c or instead of the daiwa get the citica which would you choose?

Thanks

Capt. BassinLou · July 12, 2019, 02:16:48 PM

Quote from: Jacobguy on July 12, 2019, 02:05:16 PM
Thanks Bassinlou, I'm still probably 2-3 weeks out from pulling the trigger on anything. I very much plan on starting a thread on how to setup, attach ect. And that doesnt even include rigs for bait. But if I were allowed to say spend some extra money and upgrade either the rod or reel and instead of get a colt 734c I could get a fury 734c or instead of the daiwa get the citica which would you choose?

Thanks

Since I personally own a Citica I, I'm a little biased.

However, I have handled a fuego and its a pretty nice reel. Although I do own a Daiwa, I'm a Shimano guy at heart. But only time will tell what reel family or families you will lean too Jacob. At 16yrs old, you are in a prime age to soak up all this great knowledge from all of us old timers....

Jacobguy · July 12, 2019, 02:24:18 PM

Haha, that's how I feel too learn while its easiest that's why I've been a part of 3 airsoft forums a mountain biking forum, and coin forum since I was about 12. Theres is no better place to meet knowledgable people and learn from experienced gius then a forum. Thanks I cant wait to try these reels and setup.

Capt. BassinLou · July 12, 2019, 02:33:33 PM

Quote from: Jacobguy on July 12, 2019, 02:24:18 PM
Haha, that's how I feel too learn while its easiest that's why I've been a part of 3 airsoft forums a mountain biking forum, and coin forum since I was about 12. Theres is no better place to meet knowledgable people and learn from experienced gius then a forum. Thanks I cant wait to try these reels and setup.

The beauty of living in today's world... information easily available at your finger tips in a seconds notice. Soak up the information.

Jacobguy · July 12, 2019, 02:51:03 PM

Indeed I will.

Also where would you have the drag set? I know it's a 0-12lb ability but do I adjust for what im fishing for/with?

Thanks.

Capt. BassinLou · July 12, 2019, 03:24:00 PM

Quote from: Jacobguy on July 12, 2019, 02:51:03 PM
Indeed I will.

Also where would you have the drag set? I know it's a 0-12lb ability but do I adjust for what im fishing for/with?

Thanks.

I set my drag based on feel. I'm not the technical type that will actually test the amount of pounds my drag is set on.