Final recess tray install

fishandkamp · January 09, 2018, 10:07:39 PM

WTodd Is that a Lowe boat and if so which model. I fish from a 2010 Lowe Stinger 170. They made a nice fishing platform.

WTodd · January 10, 2018, 05:28:33 AM

Yes it is; 2012 ST 175

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Deadeye · January 13, 2018, 09:15:53 AM

The INFO given you on NOT USING Pressure Treated Wood in an Aluminum Boat is correct. It is a Big No No and caused Lowe some major issues some years back when they used it for a transom stiffener. Suddenly HUNDREDS of little holes started appearing in the back of the boat, that came from the inside out.

No way to know until it happened. No way to repair it but cut the entire Transom off and re-do.

Ir made some otherwise perfect looking boats worthless.

If I were you I would get that out of the ASAP. Like mentioned you can get PVC for door trim in the Trim Section of Home Depot or Lowes that you can use instead.

Or even a Regular 2x4 is better to use than a Treated one.

Oldfart9999 · January 14, 2018, 06:43:56 PM

If you want to waterproof it you can use the resin they use for fiberglass, you don't need the glass mat, multiplecoats of oil base poly will work also.
Rodney

WTodd · January 14, 2018, 06:50:06 PM

Quote from: Deadeye on January 13, 2018, 09:15:53 AM
The INFO given you on NOT USING Pressure Treated Wood in an Aluminum Boat is correct. It is a Big No No and caused Lowe some major issues some years back when they used it for a transom stiffener. Suddenly HUNDREDS of little holes started appearing in the back of the boat, that came from the inside out.

No way to know until it happened. No way to repair it but cut the entire Transom off and re-do.

Ir made some otherwise perfect looking boats worthless.

If I were you I would get that out of the ASAP. Like mentioned you can get PVC for door trim in the Trim Section of Home Depot or Lowes that you can use instead.

Or even a Regular 2x4 is better to use than a Treated one.

Thanks for the info but it's definitely not what I wanted to hear. I contacted Lowe but like always they're slow to reply. Well I have some 5/8" Starboard so I guess I can double or triple it and use that

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

WTodd · January 14, 2018, 07:00:36 PM

OR I have some 1/8" X 2" aluminum that maybe I attach with rivets top and bottom ; I know I can bend it in the letter 'C'

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

WTodd · January 14, 2018, 09:37:37 PM

Ok I kinda did a practice run using 4 pieces of 5/8" Starboard and I screwed them together using 12 2" fine thread drywall screws. I'll use this piece in place of the treated 2 X 4. I still need to cut it exact to fit so I may put 3 more screws in; yep it may be overkill but I don't want to take it apart again. This time I'll take some pics of the process unless my CRS kicks in

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

WTodd · January 14, 2018, 09:57:07 PM

Correction; 3/8", not 5/8" Starboard

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

WTodd · January 15, 2018, 01:25:27 PM

Ok so here's what it looked like prior to fixing it. Obviously my goal is to make it look just like this.
This pic is with the treated 2 X 4 which I really liked the concept; easy to cut and a big footprint under the floor and on the false bottom so I replicated it using the aforementioned Starboard; I screwed 4 pieces together in essence making a Starboard 2 X 4 and attached it the same way as the original 2 X 4. You can also see the support I cut thru.

Here's the other side

And the whole thing back the way it was

I left the towel in the pic because kneeling on carpet sucks🤬

As long as everything holds together (it should) I shouldn't have to ever re-do it because the Starboard should last forever

Hopefully the pics are in order so I don't have to edit

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

WTodd · January 15, 2018, 01:26:32 PM

Ok pics 1 & 2 got reversed but you get the idea

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

WTodd · January 15, 2018, 01:34:37 PM

As far as the results of using it only 1 time so far I really like it and it made a big difference for my hip. Not a lot of difference on the back; my lower back is chronic and I have some arthritis in my upper back so the only thing that will probably help my back is no fishing but that ain't happening.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Capt. BassinLou · January 15, 2018, 04:07:33 PM

Quote from: WTodd on January 15, 2018, 01:34:37 PM
As far as the results of using it only 1 time so far I really like it and it made a big difference for my hip. Not a lot of difference on the back; my lower back is chronic and I have some arthritis in my upper back so the only thing that will probably help my back is no fishing but that ain't happening.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Thank you for following up WTodd.

WTodd · January 15, 2018, 05:00:32 PM

No sweat Lou. It's still early so the long term affects may be good

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Oldfart9999 · January 16, 2018, 11:56:34 AM

Good looking install W. You may want to talk to a orthopedist that does spines and see if there are any exercises you can do for your back. I have 4 discs going away along with stenosis in 2 of the vertebrae I was sent to physical therapy and it helped. I had surgery on my right shoulder 3 years ago, the therapy office was in a separate office of a gym, I joined the gym after my therapy was done and a few months later I went to the owner of the therapy office, she is also a trainer, she set me up on an abdominal machine to strengthen my core and my back is doing mush better, I can stand most of a day now instead of only an hour or so. Doesn't hurt to ask!!!
Rodney

WTodd · January 16, 2018, 03:46:28 PM

My back gets sore and stiff after I overexert myself such as 5 to 8 hours of fishing. I suppose I could limit my time on the lake but that ain't happening anytime soon. Pain is life's way of saying "hey you're not dead"

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Kris · January 16, 2018, 05:34:01 PM

I have to agree with you on "pain is life's way of saying, hey you're not dead." I also suffer from chronic back pain and nerve damage in my back. Standing all day in the Captain Morgan position really did a number on it. I added a trolling motor pedal pan and it has helped me. I also sit down a lot more and that helps me also. I do need to move the pan forward a little more to make it a little easier to steer to the left. It takes two feet to keep control of the boat right now. Do you still use a pro pole to lean against?

WTodd · January 16, 2018, 06:02:08 PM

Yes I have a butt seat that I can either sit on or lean against. Installing the recess tray was definitely worth it; like I said my hip didn't bother me after 7 hours out there so if I see no other benefit then I'm a happy camper. You mentioned turning left; I thought about lifting the rear of the foot pedal a little to make turning left easier but I'll get used to it. I've only used it once. My next thing is to use the pedal with my left foot instead of just my right. You can teach an old dog new tricks.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Oldfart9999 · January 17, 2018, 07:26:39 AM

Quote from: WTodd on January 16, 2018, 06:02:08 PM
Yes I have a butt seat that I can either sit on or lean against. Installing the recess tray was definitely worth it; like I said my hip didn't bother me after 7 hours out there so if I see no other benefit then I'm a happy camper. You mentioned turning left; I thought about lifting the rear of the foot pedal a little to make turning left easier but I'll get used to it. I've only used it once. My next thing is to use the pedal with my left foot instead of just my right. You can teach an old dog new tricks.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I have a Terrova, fortunately they have a flat foot control so I don't look like Capt. Morgan, Generally I can set a course and take my foot off it which helps also, if I want to stay in one spot I just hit SPOT LOCK, this TM has helped my back.
Rodney

Deadeye · January 18, 2018, 08:41:15 PM

Looks like that should do it.

Believe it or not, but after installing my pan I found that it was more comfortable to take my butt seat out and just stand on the deck. I can stand there and fish and feel better than I could before. I also found that when I do need to sit down for a spell that the regular fishing seat does wonders for my back VS the Butt Seat.

WTodd · January 19, 2018, 05:36:07 AM

I'll end up trying it without the butt seat and agree a regular seat is more comfy but takes up more room.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Deadeye · January 21, 2018, 08:44:44 AM

The seat does take up more room I agree, but I just use it to spell my back for a bit then take it back out.

I learned to fish using one in my small boat, was stable enough to stand in, so I son't mind it.

Kris · January 21, 2018, 09:14:07 AM

Quote from: WTodd on January 19, 2018, 05:36:07 AM
I'll end up trying it without the butt seat and agree a regular seat is more comfy but takes up more room.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I know the other thing the seat provides is support for my back. Standing for me, even with the pedal pan, takes a toll on me very quickly. I also know that part of that is my balance which has gone to hell as I get older.
You mentioned something about spacing up the heel of the foot control which makes a lot of sense to me. I think I might have to look at that to keep from using two feet to steer. Only worry is that it will put the cables in a bind but we will see when it warms up.

WTodd · January 21, 2018, 12:21:56 PM

Sometime this week I'm going to put some spacers under the back of the pedal. I have some 3/8" (I think that's the size) ones and l'm going to loosen the bolts & slide them under it and see if it makes a difference. If it doesn't no harm no foul

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk