rod repair

[Steve_W]

I have a old rod I want to repair, It needs new eyelets and a tip. What kind of glue do I use,and how do I get that string all rapped around it again? Or would I be better off sending it some where to have it done and where do I send it? (no one around here does it )

[OHbassaholic]

You might check in with CountryKat Fishing.  Jim Reed might be able to help you out on this. 

www.countrykatfishing.com

He is in Lima, OH.  I have several of his bass line of rods.  Tell him I sent you.

[earthworm77]

Cabela's puts out a tacklecraft catalog that has both guide and tip glues. They are both different. They also have a ton of different threads for winding.

[Mike Cork]

Tim Tool, shoot Triton Rob and email, he rebuilds rods and can help you out with all your questions. He also put an article on the main Ultimate Bass Site that talks about how to do this. Very good article with a lot of money saving tips Here's a link

Replacing a Rod Guide

[Fish On]

Try going to a local tackle shop and asking about them fixing rods.  They usually have someone who will fix it for you but you have to pay.  I have to go and fix one of my rods.

[Fishaholic]

Tim, if I was you, I'd check out the Cabella's catalogue and also Jann's Netcraft Catalogue for components, get yourself a book at the library and do it yourself over the Winter months...make sure you get a hook keeper...I put em on all the rod I've built over the years hook your lure into it rather than the post of an eyelet...it's a lot easier on your equipment.

It's not that hard to do really, just takes time, besides, when you're done you can have a wrap on your rod that no one but you has...I've always been partial to owning rods that were just my rods, that no one else in the world had one like.

Try it, you'll like it.

[Pferox]

I agree with fish there Tim, Its not really that hard, more technique sensitive.

I have to change tips once in a while because of oops stuff, if bumble fingers me can do it you can.

I will admit that the couple of times I wrapped eyes, they weren't super professional looking, but that was because I did it with out any tools at all, and it really doesn't look bad, just not a pro's. That does take practice, but even a rod maker's first rods weren't all that great.

You can really do it with the hand stuff, don't really need all the rod manufacturing things, some thread, although tools do help.

[Fishaholic]

the only tools you need to do rod wraps is: your hands, a simple jig to hold rod horizontally, a piece of thread, and an exacto knife...nothing sophisticated there...for the tip top, you need a pair of pliers, sand paper, the amber glue that you have to heat with a flame, and a candle...again, nothing sophisticated there either.

quoting from The Waterboy.... "you can do it, you can do it all night long" 

[Steve_W]

GREAT article    Triton Rob
thanks Mike for the heads up on that
I think I'll give it a try I got nothing to lose I can't use it like it is anyway
thanks for all the help everyone

[Mike Cork]

Tim, let us know how it goes, Triton Rob's article made it seem pretty easy and had simple ideas to make it cheap as well. Keep us posted

[Fishaholic]

Tim, Mike...it is easy...and the beauty of it is this, if you don't like the way a wrap turns out, simply undo it and start over. Nothing is permanent until you coat the wraps with a clear epoxy resin or acrylic varnish. The only thing keeping those wraps from unravelling is pressure against itself, there's no knots to deal with.

[TN Tom]

check out MudHole.com its really complete. Be very vey careful when you get into wrapping your own rods. Highly addictive and I dont know of any 12 step program to save you. Its very easy to get "hooked" but youll find it a great way to while away the winter coming up.
It can be a little bit of a trial and error thing but do a little homework and there are a lot of good tips on getting a good start without spending a lot. You can build al your own equiptment or spend as muchas you want. Ive never cared too much about beginnig with a used blank but I understand too that new blanks can get way out there. Id say go for it and re-wrap your current rod needing repair and I'd bet you have a hard time not starting another from the ground up. go for it!

[Pferox]

Rod repair is the way to go to get into it, if you find you aren't interested in the art, then you aren't out too much, especially if you follow the article.
I'm fortunate, there is a place down here close by that sells all the components, and even kits to build rods at big discounts.
But even with the discounts, the blanks can be out of site.
On this I messed up, there is a local radio program that is like an on air flea market, and a guy was sellin over a hundred big name rods that needed work cheap.
What a way to get practice in, and even recoup a few bucks sellin the repaired rods.

[Tritonrob]

Tim thanks for the positive response about the article. It just takes a little hands on practice and after a little trial and error you ge the hang of it.   I get my uspplies from Janns Netcraft.  There are also other place like mentioned here.  If you have any problems please feel free to drop me a message or even give me a call. 

[LoonyToon]

  The tip part is not hard at all----------Lay the rod down and heat the tip with a butane torch (small) or a good lighter for about 20-30 seconds.Pull on the tip toward you with a pair of plyers, and it should come right off..Heat new tip to be applied and coat with the glue stik provided (around the hole and on the shaft of the rod), and replace where you took the other off.........make sure the eyelets all line up before the glue sets (usually takes 3-5 min. ) hard............On the eyelets, go to your local bait and tackle shop and see if they have them available and/or you might have to contact BPS-Cabela's-Gander Mountain etc to get them.....Most kits come with the string to be rewound around the new eyelets.............remove the old ones like the tip----clean the rod, but don't use a degreaser compound or you'll have to wipe the rod down with something like varshal......You can use Gel-Super Glue and place a drop behind the structure of the eyelet and hold in place for about 10 sec..........apply wrapping tightly above and below eyelet itself and put on two to three drops of Gel and/or Tip Stix,,repeat the process all the way down/up....remember..................I went to the repair shop to get mine done as my nerves are shot, and my hands shake too much....................

[Steve Barnett]

Please don't over heat the rod tip, as graphite rods are built with a bake process to adhere the scrim and graphite.  Overheating the tip can melt or warp the tip by breaking down the graphite.  Put something in place to hold the rod steady, grab the tip with a pair of pliers and pull as you wave the heat source on the tip.  When it gets hot enough to break down the adheasive, the tip will slip right off.
I repair and build custom rods and have seen this mistake lots of times. Some companies use some pretty strong epoxy to apply their tips and its sometimes difficult to remove them, especially if the tip is titanium coated, the metal will resist the heat. I sometimes grind the surface of the tip prior to heating it to remove the titanium coating.

Good luck
Steve Barnett
Booneville MS

[Steve_W]

the rod I want to repair is a old Master Boron rod, I use it for jig fishing in heavy cover It,s the strongest and most sensitive rod I have ever used,It will flat out pull a bass out of a tree before it knows what happend. I have looked for a rod to replace it and haven't found anything even close to it,+ I won it in my first tournament(long time ago)  The inside ceramic piece's of the guides and tip fell out.
  At any rate I have to fix,or get this rod fixed.I am going to start fishing tournaments next year and it wouldn't seem right without it
Thanks for all the help

[Tritonrob]

Tim did you get my message that I sent you?