Line visibility

[analfisherman]

Well we often discuss whether a fish see's your fishing line.
Feel free to discuss anything you want to in this thread dealing with line visibility.

But I stumbled across this video that actually shows fishing line underwater.
Braid, Mono, Flouro....different brands and so on.

This may surprise some anglers.........may not.
But I found it kinda interesting.
Check it out and let's see where the discussion leads us. 



Man, if my season doesn't open soon............I'll end up even NUTTIER........but I'm TAKING YOU ANGLERS WITH ME! 

[Lipripper]

That was interesting . Here's one for you to research since you can't fish yet. D loo fish see things (color) the same way we see them. You need to go fishing.

[Pacific NW Ron]

That was interesting . Here's one for you to research since you can't fish yet. D loo fish see things (color) the same way we see them. You need to go fishing.

My thoughts as well.  I've never seen anything to convince me that they see color the same as we do.
Ron

[SFL BassHunter]

Anal that is an interesting video, not really much surprise. From what I saw braid is a little more visible in certain light. Of course cover is the difference maker for example I think it blends just fine in a pad field or heavy grass.

In my opinion line type, color, and diameter do make a difference...sometimes. Same as lure color, or bait color. Some folks say it doesn't matter what color you throw if it lands next to a fish and they are hungry they will eat it. That may be true for a high % of days. But there are days where you could throw the same bait in different colors and your catch rate will increase on a certain color.

I think line is the same thing. On certain days, when the bass are extra finicky in a clear water lake, mono, copoly and fluoro can be more productive than braid.


One thing I noticed though is that white line (braid) in the middle stood out big time in shade or sun during that video.

[analfisherman]

That was interesting . Here's one for you to research since you can't fish yet. D loo fish see things (color) the same way we see them. You need to go fishing.

Here you go Lip.   

http://www.ultimatebass.com/bass-fishing-forum/index.php?topic=133969.msg1468983#msg1468983

[Lipripper]

I saw that 

[rockchalk06]

I'll never argue on the fact that braid is more visible than mono or fluoro, but in my experience with my areas of fishing I can't tell a difference in hook up or bites.

The few times that I fish gin clear water, I have always used Fluoro since it was on my Swim Jig Rod.

[FloridaFishinFool]

I'll never argue on the fact that braid is more visible than mono or fluoro, but in my experience with my areas of fishing I can't tell a difference in hook up or bites.

The few times that I fish gin clear water, I have always used Fluoro since it was on my Swim Jig Rod.

Dittos on that X 2.

The only difference is I will use braid even in crystal clear water without leaders and the fish do not seem to even notice nor care about it since it is not perceived as a threat to them. In fact my experience has been exactly the opposite.

I use to fish the Winter Park chain of lakes and my favorite was Lake Mizell on the Southern end of the chain. It is crystal clear most of the time and spring fed and I have had bass chase after and peck at the braid line because they saw it move and wanted to eat it.

They were not afraid of it at all. So these days I use 100% braid most of the time, no leaders and I don't care if the water is murky or clear.

But I usually try and use moss green or grey so it blends in better and is not a distraction for a hungry fish I want to target the lures and not the line.

[LgMouthGambler]

Water clarity may make a difference, and may be to the individual fish. If you think fish are stupid, you are wrong. They are quite intelligent, but just like humans, you have stupid fish too.  After all, isnt that what we want? That one stupid 10lb fish to bite?  Different line can be used for different purposes/actions etc. But overall, if you feel comfortable throwing a bulbus rig like the A Rig, then what are you worried about? Is it confidence? Is it the fish seeing the line? Its all gonna factor into the given situation.

[SFL BassHunter]

Water clarity may make a difference, and may be to the individual fish. If you think fish are stupid, you are wrong. They are quite intelligent, but just like humans, you have stupid fish too.  After all, isnt that what we want? That one stupid 10lb fish to bite?  Different line can be used for different purposes/actions etc. But overall, if you feel comfortable throwing a bulbus rig like the A Rig, then what are you worried about? Is it confidence? Is it the fish seeing the line? Its all gonna factor into the given situation.

lol don't think that 10lb fish got to 10lbs by being stupid. Though even a smart one can have an off day.

[LgMouthGambler]

lol don't think that 10lb fish got to 10lbs by being stupid. Though even a smart one can have an off day.

Just because they 10lbs dont mean they aint stupid. Just means they havent gotten killed or eaten.

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[SFL BassHunter]

I don't think any of them are smart. Just some have better instincts. Survival of the fittest.

[analfisherman]

To me it's ALL ABOUT CONFIDENCE.

I use all kinds of different lines......you name it......I got it rigged on something.
To be honest, they ALL got OTHER reasons why I use them.
Stretch, cutting through vegetation, abrasion resistance, floating, none floating, is it visible ABOVE water for line watching, it's effects on lure/bait action........DID I FIND IT ON SALE

When you have line CONFIDENCE you then can concentrate on the real/more important aspects of catching more/bigger fish like presentation.

And it's been touched on, but even if a fish see's the line, does it really know what it is.
Do they realize any consequences of what they are seeing.

A fishes ability to think.........anthropomorphism .....they don't think but that doesn't mean they don't learn.
They are able to accumulate 'learned intelligence' BUT no they don't actually think.
It's more about associative learning, "trial-and-error" learning.

Can they then 'remember' what they learned?
Different studies, different but similar results.
They can remember but unless that memory is reinforced......probably not much longer than 1-3 months or so.

http://www.outdoornews.com/2014/02/06/ponder-this-do-bass-remember-your-lures/

Bottom line........USE THE LINE THAT GIVES 'YOU' THE MOST CONFIDENCE!
But don't be afraid to try a different line...it just may increase your confidence.....Monkey Made me say that! 

GREAT DISCUSSION Pro Staff! 

[tooboocoo]

I've never had a doubt in my mind that fish can see the line we use.......some more than others.  The real question is....do they care? 

[FlatsNBay]

What I've found when fishing in clear water... after I have stopped catching fish on straight braid, I have switched to the same bait with the same braid with a fluorocarbon leader and have caught a few more fish. Try that as an experiment next time. For me I'm using fluorocarbon or mono in clear water. I use braid a lot elsewhere.

[WestSlope]

I think Anal got it right with the point about confidence.  I would add, though, that trying different lines and knots, etc. in no-pressure situations will expand the bag of tricks in which you have confidence.  So when conditions dictate a certain type of line, or you just have that little thought pop into your mind that maybe you should try something different, you have options at your disposal without worrying about putting yourself at a disadvantage.

[Mike Bush]

That was interesting . Here's one for you to research since you can't fish yet. D loo fish see things (color) the same way we see them. You need to go fishing.

No they dont.

[j102]

Interesting. Thanks for sharing the video.

[CastingCajun]

Its weird, Ill be using braid and not get any bites, then switch to mono or fluro and catch multiple. So for sure they can see it, its just how they see it is what I wonder.