Teflon base hole pins

JasonDaoust · February 01, 2016, 03:02:33 PM

I'm wondering how these work for painting process. I'm using the normal metal ones but I had to red till the holes after painting. I remove the post after the powder paint is cured. I'm looking for a more effective way of pouring. Or does anyone pour with the weed guard in place?

Thanks jason

Tavery5 · February 01, 2016, 03:36:37 PM

Teflon pins are the best, the paint sticks to them far less than the AL pins and the heat does not bother them when baking paint. Lurecraft is the best place that I have found to purchase them.

bigjim5589 · February 01, 2016, 05:37:00 PM

I'm going to have to check out those teflon pins. I bought a bunch of the replacement pins years ago, so I didn't have to wait on jigs to cool & reuse the pins. I think I have about 300 of the metal pins.

I had some problems with powder paint sticking to the pins, and started spraying them with silicone. As long as I spray them a few times, I've had no issues.

I never liked how pouring the weed guards in place turned out, so I've stuck with using the pins for pouring & powder coating, and epoxy the weed guards in place. I do have to clean out a few of the holes occasionally & just use my Dremel for that.

Oldfart9999 · February 02, 2016, 07:21:57 AM

The teflon pins are the only way to go, the metal ones are harder to pull out and to clean after you cure the powder paint. For the ball head jigs that use 5/64" weedguards I use 5/64 drill rod cut about 1 inch in length, I found casting with the weedguards tended to deform them and it makes them harder to powder coat and tie. I use an appropriate size drill to clean the holes.
Rodney

bigjim5589 · February 02, 2016, 05:08:59 PM

Rodney, that's the problem I had too pouring with the weed guards in place. They deformed really bad, and trying to salvage them was a bear. I gave up on that before I even started using powder paints.

Skimpy253 · February 02, 2016, 06:36:29 PM

I like the Teflon pins the best

JasonDaoust · February 02, 2016, 09:40:09 PM

Thanks I'm going to order the Teflon pins.

Oldfart9999 · February 03, 2016, 07:40:16 AM

I take the few seconds it takes to clean the hole out after powder coating, the hole will close up a bit making it difficult to impossible to insert a weed guard. To hold the weed guard I normally use Loc-Tite Gel Superglue, you can use a waterproof epoxy also, just don't mix anymore than what you can use in less than 5 minutes.
Rodney

bigjim5589 · February 03, 2016, 05:54:48 PM

Rodney, I use a longer set time epoxy, primarily Devcon brand. At least 30 minute & will go with 60 or 90 minute when I can find it. I like having the extra working time. That's a lesson I've learned from using epoxy as a coating while making flies or coating jigs. The longer set time means it takes longer to fully cure, but that's never been an issue as they're usually cured over night.

When I had a lot more time for such things, I got to the point that I had very little or no waste with the epoxy. I could epoxy weed guards into a couple dozen jigs before I had to mix another batch.

However, I agree with you about not mixing too much no matter what epoxy is used. It's best to do a couple of small batches than one big one. A lot less waste that way.

Pferox · February 04, 2016, 07:58:17 AM

They make an accelerant for CA glue (super glue) That makes the bond immediately after the spray hits the glue.

It speeds up the set time considerable, especially on stuff that can slip or move. I use it a lot when gluing magnets to various surfaces.

Oldfart9999 · February 04, 2016, 01:15:52 PM

Quote from: bigjim5589 on February 03, 2016, 05:54:48 PM
Rodney, I use a longer set time epoxy, primarily Devcon brand. At least 30 minute & will go with 60 or 90 minute when I can find it. I like having the extra working time. That's a lesson I've learned from using epoxy as a coating while making flies or coating jigs. The longer set time means it takes longer to fully cure, but that's never been an issue as they're usually cured over night.

When I had a lot more time for such things, I got to the point that I had very little or no waste with the epoxy. I could epoxy weed guards into a couple dozen jigs before I had to mix another batch.

However, I agree with you about not mixing too much no matter what epoxy is used. It's best to do a couple of small batches than one big one. A lot less waste that way.

I understand that Wally world and others aren't carrying the Devcon 2 ton any more and the only way it can be had is in much larger quantities, not making jigs for sale I don't want to have that much on hand which is why I mentioned the water proof.
Jim, I super the weed guards in after coating and tying the skirt so I put a drop of the glue in the hole, push in the guard and set the jig down to cure overnight so a faster cure time is no biggy for me. I f you are making jigs for sale then time may be a factor.
Rodney