Another Knot Question

[Bud Kennedy]

My usual knot is a Uni Knot.  One reason is that I have limited vision in my left eye.  I can tie the uni easily and quickly without having to squint or struggle.  Although the knot has been effective I am always looking for something that might also meet my needs.  From time to time I do tie a Palomar knot and I am considering that perhaps there might be an easy or better knot for Braid to Mono or Braid to Flouro.  Perhaps the Albright might due for that application.

[LgMouthGambler]

Modified albright

[OkobojiEagle]

My preferred leader knot is the Alberto... however... with limited vision it will be more difficult to verify that the tag is exiting through the loop in the proper direction.


oe

[Capt. BassinLou]

The Alberto knot fits the bill. But like OE just mentioned. The tag ends can be a challenge with limited vision

[earldogg]

Alberto! Gl.

[Pferox]

Either one are great knots, Bud.  Both have the tag end challenge though.  Before the Cataract surgery I was blind as a bat, but I was able to tie either one because I learned how to cheat.

When you thread the line through the "loop" keep a finger in that loop pointing in the direction it went in, then when you come back with the tag push your finger out with the tag end.  You will have to play a little to cinch down the big loop, but it tightens up pretty easily.  With some practice, you should be able to tie it with your eyes closed.

[Bradleto]

Bud, I tie them all: uni to uni, Albright, FG.

Could I suggest a version to you of the Albright? No knot has more variations. Aaron Martens, 2015 AOY, recommended the Albright looping up and back down, then said to make certain the tag went out and through the "opposite" way the line came through the bight.  Go figure. Everyone else says the tag end goes out the way the other came in.

But, try this: Wrap your leader around the little finger of, let's say, your left hand and pull the leader spool over to the right. You will later want to wrap a few twists of the line around your right little finger.

This leaves your index fingers and thumbs open for working a knot.

Well, anyway, before you do this, pull off some braid from your rod and reel, double it, so that you will be winding the bight or loop you formed. Now, just grab the braid with your left hand, go ahead and make the leader wrap for the right hand so the length you are going to wrap is taut. Now wrap the doubled braid down 10 or 12 times using your index fingers and thumbs to pass it back and forth over and around the leader material. Once you have finished the wraps, pinch it off and simply pull the leader tag up, through and out of the braid bight loop. Tighten it down like most junction knots: spit, attention to wraps, etc.

And, at least for small lines, always wrap the braid around the leader material, never the other way. Braid will cut into fluorocarbon and mono, not so much the other way.

See here for a decent visual of what they call a "Reverse Albright."

http://www.resourcefinder4u.com/Braided_to_leader/reverse-albright.php

Brad

[OkobojiEagle]

Bud, I tie them all: uni to uni, Albright, FG.

Could I suggest a version to you of the Albright? No knot has more variations. Aaron Martens, 2015 AOY, recommended the Albright looping up and back down, then said to make certain the tag went out and through the "opposite" way the line came through the bight.  Go figure. Everyone else says the tag end goes out the way the other came in.

But, try this: Wrap your leader around the little finger of, let's say, your left hand and pull the leader spool over to the right. You will later want to wrap a few twists of the line around your right little finger.

This leaves your index fingers and thumbs open for working a knot.

Well, anyway, before you do this, pull off some braid from your rod and reel, double it, so that you will be winding the bight or loop you formed. Now, just grab the braid with your left hand, go ahead and make the leader wrap for the right hand so the length you are going to wrap is taut. Now wrap the doubled braid down 10 or 12 times using your index fingers and thumbs to pass it back and forth over and around the leader material. Once you have finished the wraps, pinch it off and simply pull the leader tag up, through and out of the braid bight loop. Tighten it down like most junction knots: spit, attention to wraps, etc.

And, at least for small lines, always wrap the braid around the leader material, never the other way. Braid will cut into fluorocarbon and mono, not so much the other way.

See here for a decent visual of what they call a "Reverse Albright."

http://www.resourcefinder4u.com/Braided_to_leader/reverse-albright.php

Brad

The little bunny comes out of his hole in the morning to play... first, he runs around the tree ten times and gets dizzy... then he runs around the tree ten times in the other direction... before he goes back down his hole.


oe

[Bradleto]

Yes! Borrowed from the old mnemonic tool to remember how to tie a bowline knot.

But, the way you just described it is often called the Double Albright or Improved Albright junction knot.

The Albright version I was describing doubles the braid but it only wraps one direction; and, then it is the leader tag end, not the braid, that is fed back through the bight formed by the looped braid.

And, just to add to the mystery, it has no "first loop" to push up and out of . . . the doubled braid just starts making the wraps.

Weird, I know, but a really strong junction knot.


Brad

[OkobojiEagle]

But, the way you just described it is often called the Double Albright or Improved Albright junction knot.

Alberto knot


oe

[Bradleto]

Albright, the original knot's name, was named after Jimmy Albright. He had his own original method of tying it, used by many. Just a guess that some ancient mariners tied some knot like this several thousand years ago before there was a Jimmy Albright.

Then, after Jimmy Albright? Well, no junction knot has more names and tying derivations. Albright, Reverse Albright, Improved Albright, Double Albright, and likely at least a half dozen more.  Then the "Alberto" series where Albright and Alberto terms are interchanged/mingled. We have the Crazy Alberto and others but they look like Albright knots.

To the totally absurd nomenclature, the tying of these knots vary . . . a lot:

Some wind braid over leader; other leader over braid;
Some come through a bight loop and wind down and away (like a common cinch knot), then come back the other direction and out the same way the wrapping line entered the bight;
Several, including current AOY Aaron Martens, exit the bight from the opposite direction.  Go figure;
Some do the wrapping starting away from the bight and only wind down to it (kind of like a San Diego Jam);
Some don't even pass the line through a first bight, then wind down on a doubled line so it has its own loop at the end, then bring the other line's tag end up and out the doubled line loop.

There are about a dozen ways to tie all of the variations.

In the end they usually have a few things in common: the bight or loop, then the other line wrapped away (so similar to a cinch knot) or somethings wrapped from the top down (so, similar to a San Diego Jam knot), then a tag end back out the bight to tighten it down.

Brad