3 power for distance? sierra vs kaden

Started by fish_taco, April 12, 2022, 09:50:02 AM

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fish_taco

Hi everyone.

I'm trying to decide between a Kaden 713c and a Sierra 703c. Its main purpose will be launching a 1/4oz jighead or t-rig with a 3" swimbait or grub and swimming it back to me. I want to be able to get as much distance in my cast as possible, being a shore fisherman 95% of the time.

I had a Champion XP 702c which did the casting job perfectly, but the spotted bay bass and halibut (and almost everything else in the bay) overpowered that rod at times, so I ended up selling it. I have a DC 734c now that handles everything the saltwater bays can throw at me, but the distance I get with my main rig just isnt the same.

So now I want to get a less stout casting rod for more casting distance, but not as light as a 2 power, so going for a 3 power. I'm guessing the Sierra might be able to allow for a farther cast because its a softer blank and might load up better? But I'm not too great at casting with slower action rods, so maybe a Kaden would be better since its a little faster than a Sierra? Bottom contact sensitivity isnt too much of a concern, otherwise I would get another Champ XP. I do appreciate my DC 734c's light weight and I hope the Sierras and Kadens feel the same.

With this info, do you guys suggest a Kaden or a Sierra?

Thanks in advance.

Mike Cork

You close by talking weight and sensitivity, thinking this is a Freudian slip LOL...

The Kaden will make you much happier. The extra inch will help with casting distance and fish control. You'll still be in a 3 power class. Not saying the Sierra is a dud, cause is will fit well also, just that I think the Kaden will make you happier.

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fish_taco

Thanks for the reply Mike.

I was thinking the Kaden would have an edge. I'm not too fond of the red accents, but function over fashion wins. Maybe I'll need to update my Tournament MB to an MP.

Yeah the sensitivity and weight comments, I guess those things are always on my mind :)

fish_taco

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Sorry I'm all over the place. I'm always wondering if the grass is greener on the other side. I think I'm spoiled with the various Champ XPs I've handled in the last year, and they set the standard for me. I know distance is the focus right now, but I think its worth mentioning that the Champ XP's sensitivity and weight are almost always worth the extra $ for me. I was originally trying to save some cash, but oh well.

I guess the real comparison should have been Sierra vs Kaden IF I don't go with a Champ XP.

So if it were between the Kaden 713 and Champ XP 703...

How do their fast actions compare? Would the Champ XP allow for a farther cast? How much lighter are Champ XPs vs Kadens? The only Kaden I've handled was a 745, but I've never handled a comparable Champ XP.


Mike Cork

To be honest, you could put a Kaden in one had and a Champ in the other and I couldn't tell you the difference in weight, if I was blind folded.

I use the 703 a lot for a variety of baits. One of which is a Squarebill crank. They weight 1/2 to 5/8 of an ounce and on 10 or 12 pound test I can launch them pretty good. They only Kaden I currently have a is a 714 so I can't go do a test for you.

I'm thinking the extra inch of the Kaden might give you more casting distance. One thing I am trying to decide is which would be better for setting the hook with a single hook bait. I mean the 703 is awesome for square bills but I don't use it for anything else yet. Seems like an extra inch would help with taking up line on a hook set. But the shorter rod might get into the back bone quicker too? Quandary... Anyone have both these rods to help?


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fish_taco

Thanks for bringing that up. I didn't consider type of hooks that I need to drive through their jaws. I'm almost always using a light wire EWG for my texas rig, either a #1 or 1/0, which the DC702C handled fine. The jigheads are usually a thicker 3/0, but I don't think I had the chance to test setting a hook on a fish with the 702C before I sold it.

Eric-Maine

If you want to launch a 1/4 swimbait spinning is the route to go. 10lb braid with 8-15lb leader. 7'6" 3000 series reel will gain you 20 or more % over any c rod with smoother drag.
3.1 Keitech is a go to for giant smallmouth. I prefer2 power.

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Capt. BassinLou

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Quote from: fish_taco on April 12, 2022, 09:50:02 AM
Hi everyone.

I'm trying to decide between a Kaden 713c and a Sierra 703c. Its main purpose will be launching a 1/4oz jighead or t-rig with a 3" swimbait or grub and swimming it back to me. I want to be able to get as much distance in my cast as possible, being a shore fisherman 95% of the time.

I had a Champion XP 702c which did the casting job perfectly, but the spotted bay bass and halibut (and almost everything else in the bay) overpowered that rod at times, so I ended up selling it. I have a DC 734c now that handles everything the saltwater bays can throw at me, but the distance I get with my main rig just isnt the same.

So now I want to get a less stout casting rod for more casting distance, but not as light as a 2 power, so going for a 3 power. I'm guessing the Sierra might be able to allow for a farther cast because its a softer blank and might load up better? But I'm not too great at casting with slower action rods, so maybe a Kaden would be better since its a little faster than a Sierra? Bottom contact sensitivity isnt too much of a concern, otherwise I would get another Champ XP. I do appreciate my DC 734c's light weight and I hope the Sierras and Kadens feel the same.

With this info, do you guys suggest a Kaden or a Sierra?

Thanks in advance.

Edited:
I have both rods, but they are spinners, and use them often. Go with the Kaden for the applications you mentioned. You will not be disappointed. The Sierra 703 is no slouch by any means, but the Kaden 713 beats it, imho.

fish_taco

Quote from: Eric-Maine on April 12, 2022, 05:51:49 PM
If you want to launch a 1/4 swimbait spinning is the route to go. 10lb braid with 8-15lb leader. 7'6" 3000 series reel will gain you 20 or more % over any c rod with smoother drag.
3.1 Keitech is a go to for giant smallmouth. I prefer2 power.

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I've gone through so many different rods trying to find "the one" that I considered giving up and using a spinning combo, but using casting gear is so much more enjoyable for me.

loomisguy

I think that if distance is your primary concern you're going to have to lengthen the rod to something like 7ft 6 and go to a reel that casts lite baits well.

Along the order of a Tauala SV, Curado 70 ect. Or as was said the ol' spinnin' rod.

Dink Dawg


fish_taco

Quote from: loomisguy on April 19, 2022, 04:30:08 AM
I think that if distance is your primary concern you're going to have to lengthen the rod to something like 7ft 6 and go to a reel that casts lite baits well.

Along the order of a Tauala SV, Curado 70 ect. Or as was said the ol' spinnin' rod.

Yeah, the Champion 763c is a consideration now too, but when I had the 733, I was longing for a little bit shorter rod. The 763c checks off additional boxes for some of my other needs too, so the pros could out weigh the con.

I dusted off my old clarus/symetre fj combo last weekend to see if I could get used to spinning gear again, but it wasn't fruitful. The line kept getting caught on the hook keeper on sidearm casts. My overhead casting had the same distance as my baitcaster casts. I  dont think I'll spend too much time trying to relearn that skill.

fish_taco

Quote from: Dink Dawg on April 20, 2022, 12:28:29 AM
Kaden 713 and don't worry, be happy.

I'm now flip flopping between a kaden 713 and a champion xp 763 or 703. As well as buying a lews tournament lite or two to replace my tournament mb.

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