Just joined the site creeping on posts looking around. Anyways last night I bought my first boat, 2005 Nitro 750. It has the mercury 115. Runs great on the water at easily 50mph. He also upgraded it with 2 new lowrance HDS7 gen 3 fish finders which I need to learn how to use. Wanted to see if anyone has added a motor fin to help take offs. It seems the bow goes up pretty high at launch but at high speeds levels off nice. It's just lower speeds it's harder to see over the bow as I'm a shorter guy. But look forward to getting it out on the water this weekend to play with it.
Hello and welcome to Ultimate Bass and we would love to see some ;PHO) of your new baby when you get the chance to post some up. ;D I'm a bank angler and don't own a boat so I can't be of much help in that area but if you need anymore :help: just holler. ;D OH and be sure to stop by them links I sent you in your welcome PM. :)
Welcome to Ultimate Bass and to the boat ownership experience. I don't know what your boat driving experience is and perhaps you can tell us about your current knowledge and skills. I ask this first of all thinking that perhaps your knowledge of how to trim the boat might be new to you. As you get more seat time and or experience I am sure you will figure out a few things. I would not recommend a "wing" until you have some seat time and fully understand the set up (prop to pad) of your boat and perhaps some description of your prop. Any further information about what RPMs you are currently achieving may also be helpful. If you are an experienced boat drive then I am sure you can answer all of these questions easily. Once you are solid on the set up and s till have some issues I am sure the group here can recommend some logical things to measure or try. Looking forward to hearing back from you and again welcome to Ultimate Bass.
Here is a few pictures I took last night at the rest stop.
As for experience I'm on the newer side. I've owned a job boat for years, rented boats about once a year to get on the lake. the owner said it's always had a hard time keeping the front end down at lower speeds. For me when I launch I start with trim down and slowly trim it to level as front starts to drop and keep it as close to level as I can. The original owner did have a fin on it before but said it broke on one side and never replaced it. I will look at the rpm this weekend. Are you looking for launch rpm or top speed.
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That's a nice looking boat. ~c~
Top speed would be my preference to know. The conditions you describe are often a sign of having the motor in too deep that may result in the bow staying a bit high. If you happen to notice, another curiosity is what water pressure are you getting? If you don't have that gauge then have you noticed a good water flow (peeing) from your motor. If you need additional information for measuring prop to pad just let me know and I can send you some information.
I had a "whale tail" on my aluminum boat and I did see a difference in lowering the bow at slower speeds but see if Bud is correct about the motor being mounted too low first
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I noticed the motor does shoot water out pretty steady rate. If you could send me any information that will help me a lot. Thanks
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Here is a website link that will explain and depict the process to determine prop to pad
http://www.stevescustomprops.com/faq.html (http://www.stevescustomprops.com/faq.html)
Just scroll down a bit when the page opens.
FYI the target measurement you are looking for is a prop to pad of 3- 1/2" I have a hunch you are gonna find that you will measrure 6" + or even a little more. Have heard this a number of times for nitro owners. Since you don't have a jackplate it would be interesting to know which mounting hole you motor is setting in. Most likely you will have to raise the motor but the measurement should tell you for sure.
So the boat has no jack plate on there so adjusting is going to be impossible right? I've thought about buying a jack plate in the future but would want to get an automatic one and probably not manual one. Maybe before weekend I can get prop to pad measurements to see how far it's off.
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No, you can still adjust the motor height. You may however need the help of your local boat dealer to help perform the task. It is especially important however to know your current measurements so you have something to tell the dealer about what change you will want to make. Each motor make has a slightly different style or set of mounting holes and I don't know who many you have with your tracker motor. I suspect that since it is a fairly small motor (90 hp) that you will have the basic three holes. FYI on my old Johnson motor set up 150 hp it has 8 hole options. So each model is different. I however have a fixed jackpate so making the change for me is no big deal. That is the true advantage of a jackplate. Once you get the set up correct you would seldom make any more changes anyway. If you want to actually have a discussion about this just PM me with your phone number and perhaps we can chat a bit about it.
Ok Bud I have what maybe a stupid question; couldn't you level your boat and the motor (after trimming it down of course) and then take a yardstick, for example, and place it against the bottom of the boat where it would stick out towards the prop and take that measurement? Just trying to simplify the process.
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Have no idea. Seems to me the pad are is not necessarily level to the boat so perhaps that is why a common measurement to a hard surface and the subtracting the would provide the most accurate measurement. I have only done it the way that the prop guy recommended.
Next time my boat is home I check both and see what I get
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So looks like it's way off 6." assuming I measured correctly. Measured from bottom of boat to ground 16.25" from center of propeller to found 11". That tells me 6.25" off set. Also posted pictures of the bolts for engine mount. So I wonder what the cost is to correct this? Maybe just pay for the jack plate now. But might need to wait til spring so wife isn't mad about spending more on the boat already.
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The photo you provided indicates that the motor is way too low. However the gap distance you are providing is 5.25" versus a likely best gap of 3.5" So by your measurements you need to raise your motor at least 1 bolt hole.
I gotta say the photo you provided does not look like that measurement bears this out. Check back to the link I provided and measure again just to be sure. It just looks worse than the measurements indicate.
I would not jump the gun just yet on a jack plate until you can verify everything. It certainly would be more cost effective just to have the dealer raise the motor. I think you will find that once you get it set you will not likely have to adjust the plate again.
Be sure to follow the instruction on the link closely. Make sure the boat is level, Make sure the motor is trimmed down to a 90 degree point. If your original measurements are correct not too bad to deal with and I would recommend just having the dealer raise the motor with the goal to achieve 3.5" below pad
Still curious what prop you have. At lease you have two positions and two positions below the current setting to enable adjustment.
At first I did measure where the arrow is. But then realized that was about 10" off and reread the document. The measurements given were correct in the post above.
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You're right my match was off a little bit 5.25" is the total off. I wonder why the factory would mount the engine in the middle knowing that they are going to be off a little bit.
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Seems to be a common practice for Nitro and tracker products. I can't tell you how many times we hear about the motor being a bit too deep. Now you are close but an adjustment is warranted. I stand by my reference to have the dealer do this for you unless you have a way to lift the motor. I had to do mine years ago but I just had a dealer do it so I could avoid the hassle. I was needing steering cables anyway so it was good to get it all done at one time.
The speed you mentioned in an earlier post is not too bad either. Seems to be about where others are reporting. Perhaps a wing will help you after you get the motor raised. but you may find you don't need it. You are a bit short on power so when the motor is raised up your hole shot might need some help that a wing can provide.
FYI it is very common to hear of a too deep motor especially on a tracker aluminum bass boat. I don't know why they do it either. I suspect may be because a lot of tracker owners are new to the bass boat driving gig and this makes it easier to plane. FYI, when you raise the motor you will likely see a slight improvement in your top speed and perhaps a better handling situation at slow speeds. Good luck with what ever you decide. This is a very important thing and I would recommend dealer involvement.
Thanks for the help on this I never realized height of mount could do so much.
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What prop and pitch are you running? That's gonna tell a lot of whats going on. Second thing is I wouldn't get a hydraulic jack plate for your boat and motor combination unless you are going to be fishing and running in pretty shallow water. Hydraulic jackplates are pretty expensive compared to a good manual jackplate, so you may be spending money you don't have to spend. Check out the 6" Hydro Dynamics Rapid Jack. Its what I have and is very simple and easy to adjust and takes maybe 5 minutes. Last, I wouldn't put one of those fin things on a bass boat. Its just a band aid for a problem that can be solved.
Hydro Dynamics-903-763-5225
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Someone else mentioned for me to check the pitch and will try and figure that out soon and report back.
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Quote from: Burbarry on October 12, 2018, 03:27:10 PM
Someone else mentioned for me to check the pitch and will try and figure that out soon and report back.
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Just in case you don't know. The prop information is usually stamped on the end of the hub.
Here is a picture of the stamp seems to be a 24 pitch and I have no idea what that means.
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that 750 is a sweet boat. runs/rides great for a smaller boat.
good choice!
OK thanks for the prop info. The number helps a bit but fyi it should also be stamped on the end of the hub where the prop attaches to the shaft. I don't think we need to know more about the prop unless someone knows the manufacturer of the prop.
I think you need to take a deep breath for a bit and get the motor raised to the correct height and find out how the boat performs then the next steps can be taken. If you go one step at a time it will avoid a lot of confusion down the road.
By the way your prop is a Quicksilver Laser II
it is 13.5 x 24
Probably a good selection for your 115 hp Merc
Yeah it is a laser 2 I should have posted that picture as well or mentioned that. But my first step was going to be raise motor up.
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The smaller nitros come rigged with aluminum props, they flex so much more then SS it isn't even funny that's why you see the boat / motor rigged lower. The tracker motor I believe is a force but in2005 they may have been shut/shutting done by then and rebadged a merc I just don't remember.
As far as moving the motor if you have an engine hoist or crane you can do it your self. Good luck, great looking boat congratulations
So looking at this is it really as simple as using the hoist move up one notch? Will I need to unhook anything or should it be ok just lifting it?
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4 bolts is it, lift and rebolt ~bb
Make sure the lift is firmly attached and ready to go before unbolting ~beer~
Yep thats about it. Be sure to be aware of the fuel line and steering cables. You don't want to put them in a bind but usually that is not a problem. If you feel it may they are both easy to disconnect from the motor.
Put either silicone sealer or 5200 adhesive around the bolts before you tighten them, you transom will thank you with many years of no rot.
Nice looking boat!!!
Rodney